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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on May 28, 2019 17:36:25 GMT -6
Haven't had nearly as much as I had hoped to look at all the different telecomuna proposals (or write a Ziu proposal myself based on the old law and the forum created by MinStuff) Is it legally possible to moderate a government owned forum at all, without specifying exactly what administrative actions are permitted and when? Also, any new telecomuna should probably also repeal 47RZ22 and 48RZ24, which also may still be in effect. I think it is definitely possible to moderate such a forum, the same way public order laws may be enforced in the public square in other nations. The fact that the Ziu and other entities do their own moderation in small is also what helps make it organic. I agree and will add a clause pertaining to the ephemeral aspects of previous statutes. Thank you!
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Jun 6, 2019 19:30:04 GMT -6
I forgot to Clark this, so I'll get it next time.
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Jul 10, 2019 15:31:56 GMT -6
I think it is definitely possible to moderate such a forum, the same way public order laws may be enforced in the public square in other nations. The fact that the Ziu and other entities do their own moderation in small is also what helps make it organic. So would you say this act allows editing offending posts or temporary banning users from using the forum/particular boards "to maintain a minimum level of acceptable behavior"?
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Jul 10, 2019 15:37:14 GMT -6
Also another question about what exactly is expected of the chancery under this act. Say the government were to create a forum where a member of the government is in charge of the main forum admin account, would that be acceptable or would that mean the chancery is then not fulfilling its duties?
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jul 10, 2019 16:16:56 GMT -6
Also another question about what exactly is expected of the chancery under this act. Say the government were to create a forum where a member of the government is in charge of the main forum admin account, would that be acceptable or would that mean the chancery is then not fulfilling its duties? My readings of that is that it would be a "checks and balances situation". The said member of the Government would be responsible to the Chancery for acceptable standards in moderation, rather than to the Seneschál/Government.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Jul 10, 2019 18:26:34 GMT -6
I think it is definitely possible to moderate such a forum, the same way public order laws may be enforced in the public square in other nations. The fact that the Ziu and other entities do their own moderation in small is also what helps make it organic. So would you say this act allows editing offending posts or temporary banning users from using the forum/particular boards "to maintain a minimum level of acceptable behavior"? "Each officeholder or head of agency shall be responsible for monitoring any boards provided for their use, and reporting any problems to the Chancery as needed. The Secretary of State or their designated representative(s) shall act to maintain a minimum level of acceptable behavior on these boards when such action is requested whensoever their own judgment directs that it is necessary. This behavior is not defined in specifics, but shall include generally treating others in a manner that respects Talossa as a community." If, in the judgment of yourself or your designated representative, that would be the best way to handle the situation in question. I can imagine many situations where this was so. For example, if someone were to start posting pages of racial epithets, it might be reasonable to edit them. However, the Chancery could rule this out as a possible intervention, opting instead to only suspend or ban. That's not what I would do, but it's reasonable. I would suggest that you establish a very simple and reasonable set of guidelines, without letting yourself getting bound up in semantics about it, and then go by those -- plus whatever rules are set by the particular boards. Wittiquette would be a very good place to start, and you might want to adopt it wholesale as a time-tested and widely-accepted approach. I'd advise you generally just act on such things that are reported to you, rather than trying to be super proactive about it, except in emergency situations. There's a lot of discretion here, and I can understand how you might be uncomfortable with defining these sorts of limits, so remember that each board will be responsible, where possible, for setting their own guidelines for behavior and dealing with things as best they can before escalating it to you.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Jul 10, 2019 18:27:45 GMT -6
Also another question about what exactly is expected of the chancery under this act. Say the government were to create a forum where a member of the government is in charge of the main forum admin account, would that be acceptable or would that mean the chancery is then not fulfilling its duties? The Chancery will need to retain the power to intervene on all boards and in all circumstances, even if you generally (and wisely) cede this role to those groups/people in charge of the respective boards.
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Jul 11, 2019 6:22:01 GMT -6
So is the government plan upon passage of this act to use the telecomuna forum that was created earlier (where the main admin account is the Minister of Stuff) and move it to Talossa.com?
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jul 11, 2019 15:06:00 GMT -6
So is the government plan upon passage of this act to use the telecomuna forum that was created earlier (where the main admin account is the Minister of Stuff) and move it to Talossa.com? The Ministry of STUFF is currently working on the transition plan and aren't available to confirm, but I believe the answer is yes.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Jul 11, 2019 18:19:46 GMT -6
So is the government plan upon passage of this act to use the telecomuna forum that was created earlier (where the main admin account is the Minister of Stuff) and move it to Talossa.com? I take your meaning. Yes, they will need to hand that main admin account over to you or your chosen representative. The Chancery is clearly and explicitly put in charge of our message board infrastructure. I regret the burden, truly, but my hope is that it will prove to be quite a light one, as it traditionally has been. Interventions have been required at a rate of once per year or less.
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Jul 12, 2019 1:09:36 GMT -6
No harm in having a new DySoS in charge of that if needs be as well. I miss the times when the Chancery had like four people, it made for greater engagement.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Jul 12, 2019 11:35:02 GMT -6
True. It's pretty much up to Gluc.
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