Iac Marscheir
Citizen of Talossa
yak marsh air
Posts: 782
Talossan Since: 12-3-2016
Baron Since: Qet Miestra tent zirada.
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Post by Iac Marscheir on Dec 17, 2018 15:56:33 GMT -6
Consider my citizenship renounced.
Marscheir
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Post by Gödafrïeu Válcadác’h on Dec 17, 2018 20:19:44 GMT -6
Best wishes, and thanks for the time you spent with us. Not sure of the context of this, but it's always sad to see a citizen go. :-O
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Iac Marscheir
Citizen of Talossa
yak marsh air
Posts: 782
Talossan Since: 12-3-2016
Baron Since: Qet Miestra tent zirada.
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Post by Iac Marscheir on Dec 17, 2018 21:27:31 GMT -6
The context is that this isn't a country. It's a government. I dropped off the radar because all anyone ever talked about was running the country. I came back, it's all still just about running the country. I know it's not intentional. I'm jusy tired of it.
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Post by Gödafrïeu Válcadác’h on Dec 17, 2018 22:10:02 GMT -6
The context is that this isn't a country. It's a government. I dropped off the radar because all anyone ever talked about was running the country. I came back, it's all still just about running the country. I know it's not intentional. I'm jusy tired of it. Instead of walking away, do something about it. Do what I've never done and learn the language and start making it a part of your life. Be the change in Talossa you want to see, and then, if everyone else and I don't get excited along with you, then you will have a point. Until then, your renunciation is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Dec 17, 2018 22:47:05 GMT -6
Shall I also say that this was ALWAYS the case in Talossa. If you look back to the pre-Internet era, politics and government were ALL that Talossan citizens apart from King Robert I did. All the "culture" stuff - language, making up nonsense about Berbers - was just Ben talking to himself.
As GV says, if you don't like it, change it. And probably a bad idea to become an active member of a political party, an MC and a Cabinet Minister if you thought we should prioritise other things than government...
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Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial
Batetz las maes, perf. —— Freelance glheþineir (I only accept Worthless Internet Points™ as payment)
Posts: 448
Talossan Since: May 12, 2014
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Post by Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on Dec 18, 2018 11:09:18 GMT -6
I wanted to make videos in Talossan for a long tome. It's just that a project like that requires *one* Talossan language to begin with, and all of my plans to unify the language ended up being stuck in bureaucratic limbo, forgotten due to prolonged phases of widespread inactivity or drowned out by the latest political crisis that the survival of Talossa depends on for some reason. Sometimes all three. It's *really* frustrating, to say the least.
In my opinion, the language is among the most interesting things Talossa has to offer. If I wanted to experience endless partisan gridlock and bickering about the most minute of things, I could just turn on my TV and watch parliamentary debates on Phoenix.
I havent given up on Talossa just yet. Iac, lets open an official unofficial Talossan Discord server or something, lets do *something* that doesnt involve Wittenberg, because Witt will always be full of political posts.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Dec 18, 2018 13:05:32 GMT -6
I wanted to make videos in Talossan for a long tome. It's just that a project like that requires *one* Talossan language to begin with, and all of my plans to unify the language ended up being stuck in bureaucratic limbo, forgotten due to prolonged phases of widespread inactivity or drowned out by the latest political crisis that the survival of Talossa depends on for some reason. But the language unification is a political question, in that every time we got close to making a new Talossan language org to replace CÚG, a major Talossan politician popped up out of semi-retirement to talk us out of it. This is the same guy who is dragging out the process of compromise on "orthographic Reunision". You must understand that Talossa is the way it is because enough Talossans want it the way it is to stop anything changing. This includes the King. This is why the political struggle for more freedom/democracy and the cultural struggle for more activity go together, whether you like it or not. There is an opposing model - the one where the King/the Goverment "does" all culture itself. This was the traditional model and we voted that out as soon as we got free, secret-ballot elections. The problem of a democracy is that ordinary people have to do stuff for themselves. If you want to make a Discord server, why don't you just do it? What do you need? Look, the Government is currently offering cash monies for people who want to do culture. And no-one has taken us up on it apart from that one guy who decided to return the money... because he decided politics was more important, and then he rage-quit politics as well!
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Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial
Batetz las maes, perf. —— Freelance glheþineir (I only accept Worthless Internet Points™ as payment)
Posts: 448
Talossan Since: May 12, 2014
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Post by Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on Dec 18, 2018 14:29:55 GMT -6
If you want to make a Discord server, why don't you just do it? What do you need? A more active userbase, I guess. We're already struggling to keep the Chatzy thing going, so a Discord server has no better chances of not completely dying when the next period of inactivity hits us.
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Lüc da Schir
Senator for Benito
If Italy wins a Six Nations match I will join the Zouaves
Posts: 4,125
Talossan Since: 3-21-2012
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Dec 18, 2018 17:06:13 GMT -6
If you do a Discord server, or anything similar, I'm in. I've also privately suggested WhatsApp, but that brings obvious security concerns. Anything that expands upon Witt to bring Talossans more together is fine by me.
Edit: I meant privacy concerns.
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Post by Viteu Marcianüs on Dec 18, 2018 19:42:06 GMT -6
The context is that this isn't a country. It's a government. I dropped off the radar because all anyone ever talked about was running the country. I came back, it's all still just about running the country. I know it's not intentional. I'm jusy tired of it. I contribute to this. And it's why I'm here - I enjoy the politics of it. That isn't for everyone. The problem is that Talossa won't be a country unless there's enough citizens to do State that don't want to necessarily do country. I hope you will reconsider renouncing. I know that a lot of things turn back to political questions, but they needn't. If something isn't inherently State specific, just because our State interferes doesn't mean that the people can't do other things within the law. I'll use language as an example - people want to make changes. But they are inhibited by the State and old, nonactive Talossans coming from nowhere arguing against a change. Fine, the State won't adopt it. But there's nothing stopping a group of citizens from organizing their own NGO to discuss academic changes and to start using them. The State will use its official version. Likely, overtime, if enough people adopted that change, the State will catch up. The point here is that you can't do country until there are enough people who want to do country irrespective of politics. I am part of a group that wants to do State; you want to be part of the group that does State. That's fine; neither is more correct. But someone has to start it and push it. If you don't want culture to be incidental to the State, then take the initiative and distinguish it from the State.
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Glüc da Dhi
Secretary of State
Posts: 6,112
Talossan Since: 5-14-2009
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Jan 7, 2019 16:21:44 GMT -6
Writ of Termination - #505 Iac MarscheirThe chancery hereby acknowledges the declaration of renunciation posted by Iac Marscheir, formerly a citizen of Maritiimi-Maxhestic. His status in the database has been changed to inactive. Done by my hand in the name of King John and under his Royal Seal on this 7th day of January in the year of the common era 2019, in the 12th year of the reign of our gracious sovereign King John, and of the independence of Talossa the 40th. Glüc da Dhi Secretary of State
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