Post by Glüc da Dhi on Oct 13, 2018 13:49:15 GMT -6
Reiterating mostly what I said in the chatroom, in the hope those in power, and in particular the Senator representing my province take note:
The government announced a policy of rewarding citizens who make a certain amount of contributions to the wiki with a public holiday of their choosing. It is possible to disagree with that policy and still recognise that when a promise is made by the Kingdom to a citizen there should be a good reason to break that promise. Nearly all the work done in Talossa is volunteer work and we cannot expect to always be rewarded for that, but promising something fun for citizens and then repeal it once the work is done is quite demotivating.
I put time and effort into updating the wiki. The theme of the day I choose can hardly be considered offensive. It doesn't deal with contentious political issues or religion or the core of someone's identity, but rather it was a lighthearted quip about an ongoing discussion that had no real effect on anything important.
What is worrying to me is that the arguments provided for repealing this celebration seem to fundamentally misunderstand the PD in two ways:
- First of all it fundamentally misunderstands the discussion, which was not about official provincial colours or provincial cultural dicta. It was about what colour to use to depict the province, which CANNOT be a provinces individual dicta, because it is subject to different constraints.
A province
- can choose to have or not to have an official colour (there is no obligation for a province to have a colour at all).
- can choose an official colour that is the same as that of another province (because why not).
- can choose to have multiple official colours (again because why not).
Meanwhile if I make a visualisation/map/graph/whatever which includes information about multiple provinces
- it might not be possible to have a province without a colour.
- it might not be possible to have two provinces with the same colour (because it becomes a mess).
- it might not be possible to use multiple colours for the same province.
Therefore the depicting of a province in a graph is limited by different constraints than the unique choice of a province.
This also means that not just the day itself but also any policy about graph making does not contradict the OrgLaw.
It is very worrying that the OrgLaw is wrongly used as an argument here as it sets a precedent for a much broader and more restrictive interpretation than the OrgLaw itself.
If it wouldn't do that the whole bill would be redundant, because the OrgLaw already protects cultural dicta and no statutory law or PD would change that.
- Secondly the PD does not even declare that KA should always be depicted red or turns this into government policy. It merely applies to the holiday itself. The PD states that "August 13th, 2018 shall be #KARED Day, on which we celebrate that the correct colour denoting the province of Atatürk is red.". It could have said that we celebrate that 2 + 2 = 4 or even that we celebrate 2 + 2 = 5. None of these statements would have made the maths any different. After all it is perfectly possible to celebrate something that is wrong or disputed.
Again this is not in contradiction the OrgLaw and the OrgLaw is being misapplied here, which sets a wrongful precedent.
I would therefore urge anyone reading this to consider voting against 52RZ27
The government announced a policy of rewarding citizens who make a certain amount of contributions to the wiki with a public holiday of their choosing. It is possible to disagree with that policy and still recognise that when a promise is made by the Kingdom to a citizen there should be a good reason to break that promise. Nearly all the work done in Talossa is volunteer work and we cannot expect to always be rewarded for that, but promising something fun for citizens and then repeal it once the work is done is quite demotivating.
I put time and effort into updating the wiki. The theme of the day I choose can hardly be considered offensive. It doesn't deal with contentious political issues or religion or the core of someone's identity, but rather it was a lighthearted quip about an ongoing discussion that had no real effect on anything important.
What is worrying to me is that the arguments provided for repealing this celebration seem to fundamentally misunderstand the PD in two ways:
- First of all it fundamentally misunderstands the discussion, which was not about official provincial colours or provincial cultural dicta. It was about what colour to use to depict the province, which CANNOT be a provinces individual dicta, because it is subject to different constraints.
A province
- can choose to have or not to have an official colour (there is no obligation for a province to have a colour at all).
- can choose an official colour that is the same as that of another province (because why not).
- can choose to have multiple official colours (again because why not).
Meanwhile if I make a visualisation/map/graph/whatever which includes information about multiple provinces
- it might not be possible to have a province without a colour.
- it might not be possible to have two provinces with the same colour (because it becomes a mess).
- it might not be possible to use multiple colours for the same province.
Therefore the depicting of a province in a graph is limited by different constraints than the unique choice of a province.
This also means that not just the day itself but also any policy about graph making does not contradict the OrgLaw.
It is very worrying that the OrgLaw is wrongly used as an argument here as it sets a precedent for a much broader and more restrictive interpretation than the OrgLaw itself.
If it wouldn't do that the whole bill would be redundant, because the OrgLaw already protects cultural dicta and no statutory law or PD would change that.
- Secondly the PD does not even declare that KA should always be depicted red or turns this into government policy. It merely applies to the holiday itself. The PD states that "August 13th, 2018 shall be #KARED Day, on which we celebrate that the correct colour denoting the province of Atatürk is red.". It could have said that we celebrate that 2 + 2 = 4 or even that we celebrate 2 + 2 = 5. None of these statements would have made the maths any different. After all it is perfectly possible to celebrate something that is wrong or disputed.
Again this is not in contradiction the OrgLaw and the OrgLaw is being misapplied here, which sets a wrongful precedent.
I would therefore urge anyone reading this to consider voting against 52RZ27