Post by Viteu Marcianüs on Feb 9, 2018 20:15:32 GMT -6
The Senate has seen fit to commence proceedings, at the exclusion of the Cosa, on the Report and Recommendation I submitted in my capacity as Attorney General.
One such good Senator has offered a thorough critique of the report. As I am not a member of the Senate, and as I have not been invited to address the body in my official capacity as Attorney General, and as it seems we're going to debate this as separate bodies, I am opening a debate in the Cosa into the merits of the report. And in that spirit, I shall offer my response to the meritless attack levied by one good Senator.
I write this to respond to the criticism of the Report and Recommendation levied by the good Senator.
At the outset, I wish to point out paragraph 29 of the Report, something the good Senator ignores in its entirety, which reads the report is not to be considered binding law. Hence, he neglects to offer the qualifying context in which I posed the report. I posed it as neither binding law nor final authority.
The good Senator attacks my examination of foreign common-law countries as a non-sequitur. This is a gross mischaracterization. The Senator alludes to an established practice of the Talossan judiciary issuing injunctions when no case or controversy or advisory opinion was sought without citing any authority. While I did search through the cases provided on the Wiki, I could not find any. I may have missed one and I am open to being corrected. This points to a problem with Talossa’s judiciary – we maintain no reporter by which we can search for prior judicial decisions. If the good Senator would be willing to produce an order analogous to the subject Justice's suo moto action, I would view his critique with merit. But as of now, it reads more as an ad hominem attack without any authority. Simply put, he cannot assert as fact that the actions of one subject Justice is inorganic absent conclusive authority that this is standard practice in Talossa.
In regards to his complaint that I focused on only a few countries and not all of South Asia, perhaps the good Senator can provide authority that shows the Republic of India is not in South Asia. In any event, following this logic, any time we seek persuasive authority from another common-law country influenced by Anglo-American law, we would need to examine Australia, Bangladesh, Belize, Brunei, Canada, Hong Kong, India, Ireland, Israel, Kenya, Malaysia, Myanmar, New Zealand, Pakistan, Singapore, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (England, Wales and Northern Ireland). Further, within each jurisdiction, we would need to examine the common-law of 49 of the 50 US states and a number of territories, the various stats of India and Australia, the provinces of Canada (with the exception of Quebec), etc. This would be most cumbersome indeed. I find this critique to be nothing short of a myopic, partisan attempt to ignore the intent behind “Anglo-American” clause as a means to defeat it by argumentum ad absurdum.
As to the alleged misrepresentations of the Organic Law. Many of these claims are open to interpretation, and absent binding precedent from the Uppermost Cort, the good Senator’s interpretation, while I disagree, is just as valid as the one put forward. However, while I conceded at the threshold that what put forth was not binding law, the good Senator asserts his interpretation as what is binding law. These affirmative assertions, however, without authority in support, are not conclusive. I would note that his later assertion that the subject Justice’s does not violate any clear Talossan precedent, again, without citing authority, suggests that this is an unsettled area of law, to which the good Senator must concede and acknowledge that propriety of the interpretation put forth in the report. If there is no clear Talossan precedent, perhaps the attack on looking at other jurisdictions can be qualified. And if there is no clear Talossan precedent, the good Senator should modify his assertions to mere opinions of an area of unsettled law.
To address each point – we are now to believe that XVI:6 intends for the Uppermost Cort to act as a Grand Jury. Notably, however, while the good Senator seemingly only considers this to apply to criminal conviction, he ignores the use of “plaintiff,” which implies application to non-criminal cases as well. Which then, of course, begs the question if we are going to apply the standards of a grand jury to every case brought before the Cort, how many cases since adoption of this clause were actually permissible? Hence, the good Senator’s attack at my interpretation ignores the part of the section that undermines his argument, which requires the “Cort . . . [to] supply any plaintiff whose case it refuses to hear a written justification of such refusal.” It's not a mere threshold issue. It's substantive. In fact, under the good Senator's interpretation, as applied in civil cases, it would require the Cort to undertake an "admissibility" analysis, similar to that used by the European Court of Human Rights, which, at times, addresses the merits of the case.
His comment on XVI:8 is questionable. Consider, for a moment, the actual text in question, “No court shall issue any authoritative decision without the fullest opportunity for all members assigned to a case to consider the case in question. “ If that is the case, exactly how can a Cort in this country issue a decision unless an external party has petitioned said Cort for a decision? Otherwise, what the good Senator suggests, we are implying that Talossa is not an adversarial system, but something akin to an inquisitorial system permitting judges to gather evidence themselves. That is not our tradition. But rather, the plain reading of the text precludes any authoritative decision until the record is fully developed for the judge or assigned judges. But what’s operative, they can only do so to consider a case in question, i.e., the case comes from an external source. It cannot be manufactured, and it cannot mean that a single judge can manufacture a controversy to issue an authoritative injunction. The good Senator’s interpretation places XVI:8 and XVI:13 in conflict with each other; my interpretation, in reading them to complement the other, supports a position closer to the case and controversy clause of the US Constitution, something the good Senator concedes he would prefer. But we should not overlook the seeming conflict the good Senator’s proposition would create. And we should not overlook the implication the good Senator makes and that his analysis is really a RUMP partisan attack dressed up in legal drag.
Now, the good Senator takes issue with the Attorney General failing to put forward a report on the other two justices. He, as he did previously, ignores paragraph 40, which addressed those two individuals. Interestingly, he neglects to point out this paragraph and then concludes that because I did not recommend removal of the other two justices, there is an ulterior motive to use the inactivity clause in lieu of the removal clause. I find it fascinating considering a very key factor that he overlooks – at the date I published the report, the subject Justice could have, at any point, appeared in any of the cases cited, and thus preclude the use of the inactivity clause. Mind you, the report was published on December 27, 2017, the inactivity clause accrued on January 13, 2018, and the subject Justice commented on December 28, 2017 in a thread concerning the report (see talossa.proboards.com/post/156514). He could have instantly rendered this part of the recommendation a nullity but , again, in keeping with his modus operandi that he is above the rule of law, the subject Justice did not appear. The good Senator's attempt at impeaching the propriety of my actions reveal his partisanship and paradoxically undermines his propensity for truthfulness.
I would point out that the good Senator should understand that it is not the role of the judiciary, in fact, to determine when removal is warranted under the removal clause or what constitutes “inactivity.” In fact, the plain reading of XVI:1 grants the Ziu and the King the exclusive authority to determine when removal is warranted, and gives the Ziu exclusive authority to determine what constitutes inactivity. This mirrors the U.S. Constitution in that the Congress possesses exclusive authority to impeach and remove, and to define the terms of “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors” that would warrant impeachment and removal.
Finally, I did enjoy the dog-whistle use of “chilling effect” the good Senator employs, considering the legal significance the term has in the U.S. That said, requiring a judge to be accountable when they consistently attack a number of people in, as pointed out, a small group of individuals, when they consistently abuse their authority, and when they ignore a lawful mandate to appear in a Cort, thus undermining the very essence of the rule of law as envisioned by A.V. Dicey when he stated in his 1885 that a pillar of the Rule of Law is that EVERYONE is subject to it, is not asking for a lot.
I find the good Senator’s concerns to be partisan, misleading, without merit, and in want of a legal predicate.
One such good Senator has offered a thorough critique of the report. As I am not a member of the Senate, and as I have not been invited to address the body in my official capacity as Attorney General, and as it seems we're going to debate this as separate bodies, I am opening a debate in the Cosa into the merits of the report. And in that spirit, I shall offer my response to the meritless attack levied by one good Senator.
I write this to respond to the criticism of the Report and Recommendation levied by the good Senator.
At the outset, I wish to point out paragraph 29 of the Report, something the good Senator ignores in its entirety, which reads the report is not to be considered binding law. Hence, he neglects to offer the qualifying context in which I posed the report. I posed it as neither binding law nor final authority.
The good Senator attacks my examination of foreign common-law countries as a non-sequitur. This is a gross mischaracterization. The Senator alludes to an established practice of the Talossan judiciary issuing injunctions when no case or controversy or advisory opinion was sought without citing any authority. While I did search through the cases provided on the Wiki, I could not find any. I may have missed one and I am open to being corrected. This points to a problem with Talossa’s judiciary – we maintain no reporter by which we can search for prior judicial decisions. If the good Senator would be willing to produce an order analogous to the subject Justice's suo moto action, I would view his critique with merit. But as of now, it reads more as an ad hominem attack without any authority. Simply put, he cannot assert as fact that the actions of one subject Justice is inorganic absent conclusive authority that this is standard practice in Talossa.
In regards to his complaint that I focused on only a few countries and not all of South Asia, perhaps the good Senator can provide authority that shows the Republic of India is not in South Asia. In any event, following this logic, any time we seek persuasive authority from another common-law country influenced by Anglo-American law, we would need to examine Australia, Bangladesh, Belize, Brunei, Canada, Hong Kong, India, Ireland, Israel, Kenya, Malaysia, Myanmar, New Zealand, Pakistan, Singapore, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (England, Wales and Northern Ireland). Further, within each jurisdiction, we would need to examine the common-law of 49 of the 50 US states and a number of territories, the various stats of India and Australia, the provinces of Canada (with the exception of Quebec), etc. This would be most cumbersome indeed. I find this critique to be nothing short of a myopic, partisan attempt to ignore the intent behind “Anglo-American” clause as a means to defeat it by argumentum ad absurdum.
As to the alleged misrepresentations of the Organic Law. Many of these claims are open to interpretation, and absent binding precedent from the Uppermost Cort, the good Senator’s interpretation, while I disagree, is just as valid as the one put forward. However, while I conceded at the threshold that what put forth was not binding law, the good Senator asserts his interpretation as what is binding law. These affirmative assertions, however, without authority in support, are not conclusive. I would note that his later assertion that the subject Justice’s does not violate any clear Talossan precedent, again, without citing authority, suggests that this is an unsettled area of law, to which the good Senator must concede and acknowledge that propriety of the interpretation put forth in the report. If there is no clear Talossan precedent, perhaps the attack on looking at other jurisdictions can be qualified. And if there is no clear Talossan precedent, the good Senator should modify his assertions to mere opinions of an area of unsettled law.
To address each point – we are now to believe that XVI:6 intends for the Uppermost Cort to act as a Grand Jury. Notably, however, while the good Senator seemingly only considers this to apply to criminal conviction, he ignores the use of “plaintiff,” which implies application to non-criminal cases as well. Which then, of course, begs the question if we are going to apply the standards of a grand jury to every case brought before the Cort, how many cases since adoption of this clause were actually permissible? Hence, the good Senator’s attack at my interpretation ignores the part of the section that undermines his argument, which requires the “Cort . . . [to] supply any plaintiff whose case it refuses to hear a written justification of such refusal.” It's not a mere threshold issue. It's substantive. In fact, under the good Senator's interpretation, as applied in civil cases, it would require the Cort to undertake an "admissibility" analysis, similar to that used by the European Court of Human Rights, which, at times, addresses the merits of the case.
His comment on XVI:8 is questionable. Consider, for a moment, the actual text in question, “No court shall issue any authoritative decision without the fullest opportunity for all members assigned to a case to consider the case in question. “ If that is the case, exactly how can a Cort in this country issue a decision unless an external party has petitioned said Cort for a decision? Otherwise, what the good Senator suggests, we are implying that Talossa is not an adversarial system, but something akin to an inquisitorial system permitting judges to gather evidence themselves. That is not our tradition. But rather, the plain reading of the text precludes any authoritative decision until the record is fully developed for the judge or assigned judges. But what’s operative, they can only do so to consider a case in question, i.e., the case comes from an external source. It cannot be manufactured, and it cannot mean that a single judge can manufacture a controversy to issue an authoritative injunction. The good Senator’s interpretation places XVI:8 and XVI:13 in conflict with each other; my interpretation, in reading them to complement the other, supports a position closer to the case and controversy clause of the US Constitution, something the good Senator concedes he would prefer. But we should not overlook the seeming conflict the good Senator’s proposition would create. And we should not overlook the implication the good Senator makes and that his analysis is really a RUMP partisan attack dressed up in legal drag.
Now, the good Senator takes issue with the Attorney General failing to put forward a report on the other two justices. He, as he did previously, ignores paragraph 40, which addressed those two individuals. Interestingly, he neglects to point out this paragraph and then concludes that because I did not recommend removal of the other two justices, there is an ulterior motive to use the inactivity clause in lieu of the removal clause. I find it fascinating considering a very key factor that he overlooks – at the date I published the report, the subject Justice could have, at any point, appeared in any of the cases cited, and thus preclude the use of the inactivity clause. Mind you, the report was published on December 27, 2017, the inactivity clause accrued on January 13, 2018, and the subject Justice commented on December 28, 2017 in a thread concerning the report (see talossa.proboards.com/post/156514). He could have instantly rendered this part of the recommendation a nullity but , again, in keeping with his modus operandi that he is above the rule of law, the subject Justice did not appear. The good Senator's attempt at impeaching the propriety of my actions reveal his partisanship and paradoxically undermines his propensity for truthfulness.
I would point out that the good Senator should understand that it is not the role of the judiciary, in fact, to determine when removal is warranted under the removal clause or what constitutes “inactivity.” In fact, the plain reading of XVI:1 grants the Ziu and the King the exclusive authority to determine when removal is warranted, and gives the Ziu exclusive authority to determine what constitutes inactivity. This mirrors the U.S. Constitution in that the Congress possesses exclusive authority to impeach and remove, and to define the terms of “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors” that would warrant impeachment and removal.
Finally, I did enjoy the dog-whistle use of “chilling effect” the good Senator employs, considering the legal significance the term has in the U.S. That said, requiring a judge to be accountable when they consistently attack a number of people in, as pointed out, a small group of individuals, when they consistently abuse their authority, and when they ignore a lawful mandate to appear in a Cort, thus undermining the very essence of the rule of law as envisioned by A.V. Dicey when he stated in his 1885 that a pillar of the Rule of Law is that EVERYONE is subject to it, is not asking for a lot.
I find the good Senator’s concerns to be partisan, misleading, without merit, and in want of a legal predicate.