[DISCUSSION] The Praisidéu Bill

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

BE IT ENACTED by the General Assembly of Fiôvâ as follows:

1. The General Assembly shall elect a Standing Committee, or Praisidéu in the national language, every year in June or as soon as possible after the election of the Capitán.

2. The Praisidéu shall consist of 3 members, elected by Single Transferable Vote by all General Assembly members. Precise details shall be included in the Fiovan Elections and Referendums Act.

3. The Praisidéu's job shall consist of:
- drafting legislation to present to the General Assembly;
- making nominations for provincial Túischac'h and Secretary of State as and when required;
- suggesting nominations for the Landsdoom to the Cunstavál;
- offering advice to the Capitán and the Government as and when required.

4. Vacancies in the Praesidium between elections will be filled by nomination of the Túischac'h and approval of the General Assembly.

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

Might it be an idea to tag the Praisidéu election on to every other General Election, like the role of Senator?

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

Oct 4, 2017 4:22:30 GMT -6 C. Carlüs Xheraltescù said:

Might it be an idea to tag the Praisidéu election on to every other General Election, like the role of Senator?

What would be the advantages to that over running on our own timetable? If we were doing that, why not do the same for the Capitán?

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

Oct 4, 2017 12:58:36 GMT -6 Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN said:

Oct 4, 2017 4:22:30 GMT -6 C. Carlüs Xheraltescù said:

Might it be an idea to tag the Praisidéu election on to every other General Election, like the role of Senator?

What would be the advantages to that over running on our own timetable? If we were doing that, why not do the same for the Capitán?

Or have the Capitán elected from amongst the 5?

I’m just throwing ideas out there at the moment. It’s best not to elect the ProvSoS in an election they have to run though.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

Well, I'll put the bill up for vote/amendment in a week as it is unless anyone has any better ideas.

This actually reminds me of Penguinea. We had a strict separation of powers. The problem was that the Protector (executive power) and his cabinet literally had nothing to do. All the fun was in the Althing (legislature). We have to look at exactly what the Capitán of Fiova has done in office in 5 years. I'm coming close to saying txec miéidâ.

Maybe abolish the Capitán altogether and have a, heh heh, "Council Republic" with the Praisidéa having exec power.

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

I’ll work on some language in the next few days.

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

WHEREAS the politics of this province is lethargic and could do with some shaking up, and

WHEREAS we have some very capable individuals in Fiova who could make that happen, and

WHEREAS those interested in doing this are often unrewarded in a direct democracy, and

WHEREAS doing something is better than doing nothing, and

WHEREAS a similar system seems to work alright in the EU, and

WHEREAS an ambiguity as to the way in which Executive Orders workshould be removed in order to preserve democracy, now

THEREFORE be it enacted by the General Assembly of Fiova the following amendments to our Constitution:

The addition of 7.2 under Article VII (The General Assembly) which reads as follows

The General Assembly shall elect a Standing Committee, or Praisidíeu in the national language, every year in November.

The Praisidíeu shall consist of 3 members, elected by Single Transferable Vote by all General Assembly members. Precise details shall be included in the Fiovan Elections and Referendums Act.

The Praisidíeu‘s role shall consist of:
- drafting legislation to present to the General Assembly;
- making nominations for provincial Túischac'h and Secretary of State as and when required;
- suggesting nominations for the Landsdoom to the Cunstavál;
- offering advice to the Capitán and the Government as and when required.

Vacancies in the Praisidíeu between elections will be filled by nomination of the Túischac'h and approval of the General Assembly.

An amendment to 9.1 under Article IX (Precedence of Law) to read as follows (with emphasis added purely for the benefit of the General Assembly)

9.1
Provincial Law consists of (in order of precedence) the Organic Law of the Kingdom of Talossa, the laws of the Federal Ziu (except in matters reserved to the provinces), this Constitution, the Laws passed by the General Assembly, decisions of the Landsdoom, and Executive Orders. Executive Orders are issued by the Cunstavál in the name of the Government and must be co-signed by the Capitán before becoming law. They may be overturned by the General Assembly.

Uréu q'estadra så

Miestra Schiva
CCX

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

Placeholder for easy editing when I work on it some more.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

If the two elections happen concurrently, would one be able to stand in both at the same time? Perhaps we could have the Prasid election in November.

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

I suppose in doing so we would be able to hold elections for it next month and thus get it up and running.

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

Assuming we can quickly write up STV rules! Copy-pasting from Ireland might do the trick

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

I’d quite like to bolt this minor amendment (emphasis added) on if there are no objections:

9.1
Provincial Law consists of (in order of precedence) the Organic Law of the Kingdom of Talossa, the laws of the Federal Ziu (except in matters reserved to the provinces), this Constitution, the Laws passed by the General Assembly, decisions of the Landsdoom, and Executive Orders. Executive Orders are issued by the Cunstavál in the name of the Government and must be co-signed by the Capitán before becoming law. They may be overturned by the General Assembly.

This just removes the ambiguity over whether the Capitán would have to co-sign any Executive Order issued by the Cunstavál.

[C. Carlüs Xheraltescù]

I’ve edited this now to reflect changes. Should I make the formal proposal myself?

[Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN]

Oct 9, 2017 13:56:44 GMT -6 C. Carlüs Xheraltescù said:

I’ve edited this now to reflect changes. Should I make the formal proposal myself?

Yep, just make sure you spell the title right

[Gödafrïeu Válcadác’h]

Oct 4, 2017 16:13:15 GMT -6 Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN said:

Well, I'll put the bill up for vote/amendment in a week as it is unless anyone has any better ideas.

This actually reminds me of Penguinea. We had a strict separation of powers. The problem was that the Protector (executive power) and his cabinet literally had nothing to do. All the fun was in the Althing (legislature). We have to look at exactly what the Capitán of Fiova has done in office in 5 years. I'm coming close to saying txec miéidâ.

Maybe abolish the Capitán altogether and have a, heh heh, "Council Republic" with the Praisidéa having exec power.

'Last Capitán of Fiôvâ' riding into the sunset...