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Post by Magniloqueu Épiqeu da Lhiun on Feb 2, 2017 17:35:01 GMT -6
Esteemed fellow members of the Ziu,
it has come to my attention that the Organic Law and the Lexhatx have, according to the Wiki, not been updated since 18th of April, 2016; nearly one year. I do not know who is the Scribe at the moment, but whoever the hell it is, I recommend we remedy it immediately. As far as I know, D:r dal Nordselvă is the Scribe of Abbavilla. Now, the Scribe is part of the Royal Household, and as such I believe he derives his authority from the Crown.
I know that D:r dal Nordselvă has not been around for quite some time, but that is no reason for our laws to fall into a state of decay and antiquity.
Furthermore, the Digest of Laws found in the TalossaWiki has also been neglected, stagnating in a state between the first and second Clarks of the last Cosă (April and May).
What shall we do?
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Feb 2, 2017 22:56:33 GMT -6
Esteemed fellow members of the Ziu, it has come to my attention that the Organic Law and the Lexhatx have, according to the Wiki, not been updated since 18 th of April, 2016; nearly one year. Clearly this is one more proof that the so-called King of Talossa does not give a damn about anything that happens here unless either prodded, or his own privileges are being threatened. I call for the practical functions of the Royal Household to be ASAP legislatively stripped from the do-nothing or do-worse-than-nothing King and become part of our Civil Service, responsible to the elected Government. I will contact the Scribe on FB to see whether there is any chance of him reassuming his duties in the near future. If there is a Deputy, then they should be doing the job. If there is not a Deputy, there should be one ASAP. |
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Post by Munditenens Tresplet on Feb 2, 2017 23:38:57 GMT -6
Esteemed fellow members of the Ziu, it has come to my attention that the Organic Law and the Lexhatx have, according to the Wiki, not been updated since 18 th of April, 2016; nearly one year. Clearly this is one more proof that the so-called King of Talossa does not give a damn about anything that happens here unless either prodded, or his own privileges are being threatened. I call for the practical functions of the Royal Household to be ASAP legislatively stripped from the do-nothing or do-worse-than-nothing King and become part of our Civil Service, responsible to the elected Government. I will contact the Scribe on FB to see whether there is any chance of him reassuming his duties in the near future. If there is a Deputy, then they should be doing the job. If there is not a Deputy, there should be one ASAP. I don't know if I'm still a deputy or not. If I am, I'm happy to start doing some updating. |
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Post by Magniloqueu Épiqeu da Lhiun on Feb 3, 2017 4:05:44 GMT -6
Esteemed fellow members of the Ziu, it has come to my attention that the Organic Law and the Lexhatx have, according to the Wiki, not been updated since 18 th of April, 2016; nearly one year. Clearly this is one more proof that the so-called King of Talossa does not give a damn about anything that happens here unless either prodded, or his own privileges are being threatened. I call for the practical functions of the Royal Household to be ASAP legislatively stripped from the do-nothing or do-worse-than-nothing King and become part of our Civil Service, responsible to the elected Government. I will contact the Scribe on FB to see whether there is any chance of him reassuming his duties in the near future. If there is a Deputy, then they should be doing the job. If there is not a Deputy, there should be one ASAP. I agree, Miestrâ, that we need a more active King, and you know I do neither support nor respect King John I anymore. But I am not prepared to blame the Royal Household altogether, or the King unilaterally. We have known that D:r dal Nordselvă has been inactive for quite some time now. Somebody must have remembered him to be the Scribe — why has it not occurred to anybody that with him the update to laws would also be gone? Yes, the King is responsible for the Officers of the Royal Household, but ideally, we are, in turn, responsible for the King. This is a failure not of one man or one department, but a joint un-effort. |
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Ian Plätschisch
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Feb 3, 2017 7:02:22 GMT -6
Esteemed fellow members of the Ziu, it has come to my attention that the Organic Law and the Lexhatx have, according to the Wiki, not been updated since 18 th of April, 2016; nearly one year. Clearly this is one more proof that the so-called King of Talossa does not give a damn about anything that happens here unless either prodded, or his own privileges are being threatened. I call for the practical functions of the Royal Household to be ASAP legislatively stripped from the do-nothing or do-worse-than-nothing King and become part of our Civil Service, responsible to the elected Government. I will contact the Scribe on FB to see whether there is any chance of him reassuming his duties in the near future. If there is a Deputy, then they should be doing the job. If there is not a Deputy, there should be one ASAP. Practically, the Civil Service is so inactive that transferring the powers of the Royal Household to the Civil Service would probably not make much of a difference. At least when we need someone appointed to the Royal Household, we can prod the King, rather than first needing to form a committee and then trying to prod that committee. If the Civil Service ever does become more active, I would support such a measure (unless the King becomes a great deal more active, in which case I wouldn't see any harm in leaving the King with this power). |
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Post by Þon Txoteu É. Davinescu on Feb 3, 2017 12:18:05 GMT -6
Clearly this is one more proof that the so-called King of Talossa does not give a damn about anything that happens here unless either prodded, or his own privileges are being threatened. I call for the practical functions of the Royal Household to be ASAP legislatively stripped from the do-nothing or do-worse-than-nothing King and become part of our Civil Service, responsible to the elected Government. I will contact the Scribe on FB to see whether there is any chance of him reassuming his duties in the near future. If there is a Deputy, then they should be doing the job. If there is not a Deputy, there should be one ASAP. Practically, the Civil Service is so inactive that transferring the powers of the Royal Household to the Civil Service would probably not make much of a difference. At least when we need someone appointed to the Royal Household, we can prod the King, rather than first needing to form a committee and then trying to prod that committee. If the Civil Service ever does become more active, I would support such a measure (unless the King becomes a great deal more active, in which case I wouldn't see any harm in leaving the King with this power). *raises hand* As the current Commissioner of the Civil Service, Ian, I can tell you that... since my appointment, I have been working to develop a Civil Service Code. It has been more time consuming then I would have liked as this is also been the last few months of my Senior Year in college (Business Leadership). That being said, any additional duties the government deems necessary to assign to my office, I will attack those duties with the same energy I'm putting into the Civil Service Code. I'm here to help and happy to do so. |
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Ian Plätschisch
Senator for Maritiimi-Maxhestic
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Feb 3, 2017 14:16:38 GMT -6
Practically, the Civil Service is so inactive that transferring the powers of the Royal Household to the Civil Service would probably not make much of a difference. At least when we need someone appointed to the Royal Household, we can prod the King, rather than first needing to form a committee and then trying to prod that committee. If the Civil Service ever does become more active, I would support such a measure (unless the King becomes a great deal more active, in which case I wouldn't see any harm in leaving the King with this power). *raises hand* As the current Commissioner of the Civil Service, Ian, I can tell you that... since my appointment, I have been working to develop a Civil Service Code. It has been more time consuming then I would have liked as this is also been the last few months of my Senior Year in college (Business Leadership). That being said, any additional duties the government deems necessary to assign to my office, I will attack those duties with the same energy I'm putting into the Civil Service Code. I'm here to help and happy to do so. I'm glad to hear that. If you can get the Civil Service up and running, I'd be more than happy to assign more tasks to it. |
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Glüc da Dhi
Secretary of State
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Feb 6, 2017 6:36:25 GMT -6
The Sribe can be removed or appointed on the recommendation of the Seneschal. Maybe the new government could check on Txec and then decide (or not) on the appointment of a new Scribe, before we all blame this on the monarchy.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Feb 6, 2017 13:40:33 GMT -6
The Sribe can be removed or appointed on the recommendation of the Seneschal. Then why is it under the Royal Household? Also, you clearly missed the part where I said I was going to check on Txec. The word is: he hasn't responded to me. So I think we can declare the Scribery vacant. |
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Glüc da Dhi
Secretary of State
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Feb 6, 2017 14:27:02 GMT -6
The difference in my view (though I might be wrong) between someone working directly under the government is that while the government can decide who has the position, the position itself is semi-independent. For example, the pm or a minister cannot act in name of the Chancery or direct the Chancery to act in certain way.
(Additionally, it creates an opportunity for the King to make a fancy statement once in a while.)
Actually, your proposal would not remove the Scribery from the Royal Household, as the Civil Service itself is part of the Royal Household.
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Post by Magniloqueu Épiqeu da Lhiun on Feb 6, 2017 17:40:22 GMT -6
Miestrâ’s current bill moves the Scribery under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Justice – that is not the Royal Household.
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Sir C. M. Siervicül
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Feb 8, 2017 7:28:42 GMT -6
Glüc is right. The King just recently appointed a Seneschal and a bunch of ministers upon request. There is zero reason to think that he would not appoint a new Scribe upon the recommendation of the Seneschal in the same way. He couldn't choose a new Scribe of his own accord if he wanted to. Blaming the King for the Scribe's inactivity is pure political opportunism.
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