The Ministry of STUFF needs your help. In an effort to update the Kingdom's web presences, the Ministry requires the most up-to-date information about all of the provinces, and who better to provide that information than the people who already live there?
To start, the Ministry requests that the composition and structure of the current provincial government be posted here, so that it can be transferred on to the web presences of the Kingdom. When something significant in the province changes, be it government, culture, etc, post it here so it too can be added. Finally, if there is anything that Vuode would like to be promoted on social media, please post it here also.
Thank you, and your help is appreciated.
Minister of STUFF
Ian Viac'hteir Plätschisch Senator for Maritiimi-Maxhestic
Post by Iac Marscheir on Jun 19, 2017 10:15:44 GMT -6
If there is anything on the page about Vuode that is out of date or inaccurate, please notify the Ministry of STUFF in this thread. If, at any time, and I mean any time, you read through this page and find inaccuracies, report them here. Also, if there is anything in Ian Plätschisch's original post that you think you'll be able to tell us about, post it in this thread, too.
Post by Glüc da Dhi on Sept 7, 2017 16:26:29 GMT -6
Added a link to the wiki, which wasn't there yet for some reason. I will try to work on your page this weekend. Before I do, a couple of comments/questions.
First, there is a broken link to a history of Vuode. Presumably that is meant to link to a new page like this one on kotnet: www.kingdomoftalossa.net/index.cgi?lingo=&page=VuodeHistory. However, I don't really want to replicate that page on talossa.com for two reasons. First, I don't think provinces should have more than one page, otherwise the risk of there being outdated pages greatly increases. Secondly, that history is already greatly outdated. Thirdly, MinSTUFF doesnt really employ any historians to update such a page. A better solution in my view would be to put that page in a pdf and present it as a historical document on the Vuodean page. That way it never gets outdated. Anyone who wants to write about the recent history of Vuode can do so on the wiki. That would be my suggestion anyway.
The page also still mentions the three premier system, but that no longer exists right? From what I understand there is only one premier now and that office might be vacant. Is that correct?
The page is currently written in first person plural, do I keep that, or should I go for third person singular?
Lastly, should the entire text of the anthem really be on the page? (Maybe that would fit better on the wiki?)
Going to tag Eðo Grischun and V, because they might have opinions on this.
I put the history in a pdf file and linked it on the page. I also created a page with the same text on the wiki (http://wiki.talossa.com/History_of_Vuode). Obviously this can be updated with more modern history by anyone who feels like it.
V: If one takes issue with the current Covenants - I would support a rewrite to clean them up.
Feb 10, 2019 17:36:13 GMT -6
V: But that said, this argument that if we adopted the new Org Law and the Covenants, it would be inorganic is lost when we consider that by adopting the new org law, we relinquish the shackles of the old Org Law.
Feb 10, 2019 17:37:05 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: You have some good points. To be sure, the longevity and tradition of the OrgLaw make it (and us) stand out from other, similar, places. But your argument here in this thread basically boils down to "it's too cumbersome." And that's not true.
Feb 10, 2019 20:02:08 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: The new proposal is just as cumbersome and complicated, except where it has omissions that will need to be remedied. Even leaving aside the fatal flaws, it's not an improvement in this way, except for the lack of "holes."
Feb 10, 2019 20:03:20 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: Ultimately, the same amount of effort spent amending the current OrgLaw would have had equal or superior effect to coming up with a new system of government, plus it wouldn't have trashed the old one to which we swore an oath.
Feb 10, 2019 20:04:18 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: And finally, the entire process is being performed by the legislative process as normal, which means it is part of that process. Elevating new supreme documents so easily should not be possible, since that is dangerous and ill-conceived.
Feb 10, 2019 20:05:35 GMT -6
V: Not really - in effect- we're amending the prior org law by repealing all aspects of it and passing adopting new sections. So yoi can keep your longevity.
Feb 10, 2019 20:28:07 GMT -6
Ian Plätschisch: Yeah, the whole reason we aren't calling it "The 2019 Organic Law" is because you convinced us not to
Feb 10, 2019 20:46:13 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: So... if you agree with me, why the argument? Yes, we're doing it entirely within the frame of the current Organic Law, passing a massive amendment to install a new constitution in its shell. Good, I guess, although this is a weird conversation.
Feb 10, 2019 22:02:41 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: I am comforted by the fact that this probably won't pass referendum, but why run in circles like the above? Let's just be straightforward.
Feb 10, 2019 22:03:58 GMT -6
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