Senate of Benito, 49th Cosa


Munditenens Tresplet: Happy to see the Atatürk legislature of one unanimously exercise their provincial right to determine their own cultural dicta today, even if it confused the purpose of the currently Hoppered bill to repeal 52PD1. Sept 18, 2018 18:08:37 GMT -6
Munditenens Tresplet: The stated purpose of the Hoppered bill is as simple as the title: "The Provincial Depiction Right of Determination Act". Indeed, thanks to the Organic clarification already provided by this act, Atatürk has now exercised their right of determination. Sept 18, 2018 18:11:39 GMT -6 *
Lüc da Schir: I hate using the term "vibes" but I'm getting awfully bad vibes from certain recent happenings in Talossa. Sept 20, 2018 11:50:37 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: The second-highest-ranking member of the Government is suing for the right to be able to doxx other Talossans. Yeah, it's not a good situation. Sept 20, 2018 12:36:17 GMT -6
V: That's not doxxing. Do you ever stop lying? Sept 20, 2018 13:11:06 GMT -6
Lüc da Schir: You are both proving my point. Sept 20, 2018 13:20:33 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: Not sure what you want me to do, Luc? Do I just not criticize problematic bills if V is the sponsor? Do I just ignore when he breaks Wittiquette? Sept 20, 2018 14:40:02 GMT -6
Lüc da Schir: I don't intend to enter the discussion, I've got other stuff to do, but while I don't like V's recent antics and you're right re. Wittiquette, I don't think you have been entirely honest in your arguments against the bill. Just a personal opinion though. Sept 20, 2018 15:04:13 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: look, I have been straight from the beginning. I think some of the charges being brought for impeachment are nonsense. Some are not. I want a bill that doesn't include the nonsense so that we can have an honest vote. Sept 20, 2018 15:12:21 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: Actually, they would also be fair to say that I have viewed all of his charges with some skepticism since the end of them. That really is a fair point, on second thought. It does feel like the well has been a little bit since every time I looked at one of Sept 20, 2018 15:14:54 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: The case is cited as evidence it didn't really seem to back up the charges. Sept 20, 2018 15:15:18 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: So either way, hopefully we can get a better version of the bill together. A honest version. Sept 20, 2018 15:48:06 GMT -6
V: Perhaps we can get honest critiques. Sept 20, 2018 16:06:52 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: I have presented a bunch of different critiques of fundamental flaws in the bill, in each case backed by specific arguments. Sept 20, 2018 17:22:09 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: Indeed, if you reread the thread, you will see that was all I ever wanted to do: discuss the merits of specific points of the bill! Sept 20, 2018 17:22:31 GMT -6
V: You're not discussing the merits. You're arguing for outright removal of entire provisions and then attacking each of the merits to reduce it to, "well it's really just this one thing; can't we overlook this?" You're not debating in good faith. Sept 20, 2018 18:03:32 GMT -6 *
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: Yes, I'm arguing for outright removal of entire provisions because the evidence which underlies them does not seem to bear up the actual charges. I have written about this at length in the thread multiple times already, always being specific! Sept 20, 2018 18:15:10 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: Yay! One problem solved, now just a bill to work through and fix (assuming it fails, as I hope it will). Sept 20, 2018 18:44:11 GMT -6
V: There was no "internal spanking." I, on my own accord, said I would edit your name. Sept 20, 2018 19:41:39 GMT -6
Sir Alexandreu Davinescu: Ok :) Sept 20, 2018 20:31:38 GMT -6