Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jan 30, 2016 14:50:14 GMT -6
Two are former recent members of other parties. They prefer to stay quiet. Two others are not frequent Witt users. We received support after email of our platform from two more citizens who have told me they NEVER use Witt so this is probably why you are seeing me as the tip of a small but respectable iceberg. "Also, I totally have a boyfriend! He lives in Canada, though, which is why you never see him." No, seriously - I told AD and I'm telling you. Programmes and platforms don't mean miéidâ in Talossa. They're just fluff, words you bandy about. To be in government you need a team of people prepared to put the programme in action. And you just admitted that the rest of your party are people who don't actually want to be involved in government. So, to all intents and purposes, you're just like the RUMP. Worse than the RUMP, because the RUMP have Cresti and Eddie G., at least. The active TNC who can be involved in the next government is just you. And - while you were a fine Foreign Minister - you can't do any more than one portfolio, realistically.
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Post by Breneir Itravilatx on Jan 30, 2016 14:52:26 GMT -6
I confess this got a smile out of me. Nice one. OK, now I am laughing...
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Post by Breneir Itravilatx on Jan 30, 2016 15:11:32 GMT -6
Two are former recent members of other parties. They prefer to stay quiet. Two others are not frequent Witt users. We received support after email of our platform from two more citizens who have told me they NEVER use Witt so this is probably why you are seeing me as the tip of a small but respectable iceberg. "Also, I totally have a boyfriend! He lives in Canada, though, which is why you never see him." No, seriously - I told AD and I'm telling you. Programmes and platforms don't mean miéidâ in Talossa. They're just fluff, words you bandy about. To be in government you need a team of people prepared to put the programme in action. And you just admitted that the rest of your party are people who don't actually want to be involved in government. So, to all intents and purposes, you're just like the RUMP. Worse than the RUMP, because the RUMP have Cresti and Eddie G., at least. The active TNC who can be involved in the next government is just you. And - while you were a fine Foreign Minister - you can't do any more than one portfolio, realistically. Seriously though, Dama Miestra, you can talk about our numbers all you want but it is not our numbers that voters will be evaluating it is our ideas. We will work in coalition with other parties to achieve our platform goals the quality of which is apparently not in dispute. Thank you for keeping this thread at the top.
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Ian Plätschisch
Senator for Maritiimi-Maxhestic
Posts: 4,001
Talossan Since: 3-21-2015
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Jan 30, 2016 16:04:30 GMT -6
Two are former recent members of other parties. They prefer to stay quiet. Two others are not frequent Witt users. We received support after email of our platform from two more citizens who have told me they NEVER use Witt so this is probably why you are seeing me as the tip of a small but respectable iceberg. Programmes and platforms don't mean miéidâ in Talossa. They're just fluff, words you bandy about. ??
So, the stances of the parties don't mean anything to a potential voter? Differences on the monarchy, provinces, voting, the role of government, etc, all just fluff?
If this is the case, your favorite talking point doesn't make any sense; All I can say on the first one is that with a RUMP-led government you get no Monarchy reforms. None which amount to any more than the pixels they're written in. Why would anyone care about Monarchy reforms if its just words that you bandy about?
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Bradley Higgs
Citizen of Talossa
Posts: 17
Talossan Since: 1-25-2016
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Post by Bradley Higgs on Jan 30, 2016 16:40:58 GMT -6
Has there been a history of public works proposed and gone unrealized? Do we have a database of proposals, their corollary projects and their current state?
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Post by Breneir Itravilatx on Jan 30, 2016 16:46:58 GMT -6
Has there been a history of public works proposed and gone unrealized? Do we have a database of proposals, their corollary projects and their current state? I'm not certain of this but I think the answer is Yes on the first question and No on the second question unfortunately.
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Post by Marti-Pair Furxheir S.H. on Jan 30, 2016 17:08:13 GMT -6
Has there been a history of public works proposed and gone unrealized? Do we have a database of proposals, their corollary projects and their current state? We have one of those proposed as law... at www.talossa.ca
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Post by Breneir Itravilatx on Jan 30, 2016 17:10:50 GMT -6
Has there been a history of public works proposed and gone unrealized? Do we have a database of proposals, their corollary projects and their current state? We have one of those proposed as law... at www.talossa.caMPF, do you remember what was the name of that proposed law? The link you posted connects to the front page of the database.
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Post by Marti-Pair Furxheir S.H. on Jan 30, 2016 19:29:17 GMT -6
MPF, do you remember what was the name of that proposed law? The link you posted connects to the front page of the database. No, what I was saying was that if there was indeed a proposed law, chances are that it would be on talossa.ca, at least for the recent years.
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Post by Breneir Itravilatx on Jan 30, 2016 19:30:28 GMT -6
MPF, do you remember what was the name of that proposed law? The link you posted connects to the front page of the database. No, what I was saying was that if there was indeed a proposed law, chances are that it would be on talossa.ca, at least for the recent years. Oh. Thanks for clarifying.
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Post by E.S. Bornatfiglheu on Jan 30, 2016 19:38:55 GMT -6
"Also, I totally have a boyfriend! He lives in Canada, though, which is why you never see him." No, seriously - I told AD and I'm telling you. Programmes and platforms don't mean miéidâ in Talossa. They're just fluff, words you bandy about. To be in government you need a team of people prepared to put the programme in action. And you just admitted that the rest of your party are people who don't actually want to be involved in government. So, to all intents and purposes, you're just like the RUMP. Worse than the RUMP, because the RUMP have Cresti and Eddie G., at least. The active TNC who can be involved in the next government is just you. And - while you were a fine Foreign Minister - you can't do any more than one portfolio, realistically. Seriously though, Dama Miestra, you can talk about our numbers all you want but it is not our numbers that voters will be evaluating it is our ideas. We will work in coalition with other parties to achieve our platform goals the quality of which is apparently not in dispute. Thank you for keeping this thread at the top. Gonna chime in as a voter here again. I'm not just interested in the ideas of a party, but also their ability to keep the wheels turning and the lights on. So I am interested to know if you have a potential team.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jan 30, 2016 20:10:41 GMT -6
Good luck with that, bro, seriously.
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Post by Breneir Itravilatx on Jan 30, 2016 20:11:41 GMT -6
Seriously though, Dama Miestra, you can talk about our numbers all you want but it is not our numbers that voters will be evaluating it is our ideas. We will work in coalition with other parties to achieve our platform goals the quality of which is apparently not in dispute. Thank you for keeping this thread at the top. Gonna chime in as a voter here again. I'm not just interested in the ideas of a party, but also their ability to keep the wheels turning and the lights on. So I am interested to know if you have a potential team. I did answer this question and confirmed the TNC as more than just myself but I will not provide a list of TNC members or current citizens expected to vote for us (this will be made abundantly clear as the votes come in). We are indeed still a small party and, so far, I am buoyed by the reactions I've received publicly now and privately to our platform but I wanted to be clear as to my reaction to the question of numbers. We are not running on an anti-coalition premise which necessitates having a full team of ministers within our party. In fact, when I founded the TNC it was under the premise that coalition governments and the attendant compromise that comes with them is a good thing. The TNC does not have and does not expect to offer a full slate because we expect to form a COALITION GOVERNMENT. The only party that is actually required to have a full slate on offer is the party which is running on the vow of not entering coalitions: the Free Democrats. I, personally, believe that this is fundamentally flawed in that it attempts to place the blame for failures in the last Government on the inherent unworkability and inferiority of coalition government rather than the failures by the Prime Minister and other cabinet members to actually hold people accountable. As Foreign Minister, when S:reu Fortaleca disappeared he was replaced after attempts to contact him. When Dr. Ravish said he could not do the job he was replaced with someone who would. When someone did a damn good job then they were told so and if willing offered opportunities to help even more such as was the case with the Deputy FM when he joined the Board of Governors of the BHAID. There were no excuses and there was no delay. If I make mistakes then I as the leader will take responsibility and I definitely will not insult voters by asking for a restored and increased mandate DESPITE these failures. There is no amount of "pugnacity" or "eccentricity" that can change the objective record of government on which voters should judge the Free Democrats. We will not have a problem with Cosa seats nor will we have a problem with ministries. And clearly we will not have a problem with ideas and motivation.
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Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă
Puisne (Associate) Justice of the Uppermost Court
Fraichetz dels punts, es non dels mürs
Posts: 4,063
Talossan Since: 9-23-2012
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on Jan 30, 2016 21:18:27 GMT -6
Dodgy to say the least.
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Post by Eðo Grischun on Jan 30, 2016 21:35:00 GMT -6
Seriously though, Dama Miestra, you can talk about our numbers all you want but it is not our numbers that voters will be evaluating it is our ideas. We will work in coalition with other parties to achieve our platform goals the quality of which is apparently not in dispute. Thank you for keeping this thread at the top. Gonna chime in as a voter here again. I'm not just interested in the ideas of a party, but also their ability to keep the wheels turning and the lights on. So I am interested to know if you have a potential team. This. I have to say, for this election cycle, at least, I'm not all that interested in the minute specifics of each party manifesto as much as I am interested in the "who is who" of each potential government. I have not been following the big debate thread. Actually, not been following it at all. TL;DR springs to mind. Which is actually hilarious in its own right, because in past debates I have found myself moaning at how long it takes for a sensibly timed reply to be posted in such threads. However, this current debate seems to going at Flying Scotsman speed and I just can't bring myself to drudge through the swathes of party political broadcast. I feel like I already have a grasp of "who is who" and what each of these "whos" stand for. The minute specifics don't seem to interest me much. So, like you say here, I'm not just interested in the ideas of party, but, also (actually, for me, it is 'rather' instead of 'also') their ability to keep the wheels turning and the lights on. As a side thought; is this an indication that we are entering into an era of elections fought over 'personality' rather than 'ideals'? Or, that, in general, we have stopped caring so much about the simpler and smaller aspects of governance because we are losing confidence in our leaders and potential leaders to enact said governance? Just some random late night thoughts. Anyway, original point stands. In this election, at least, I care more for 'who' we elect than 'what' we elect.
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