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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Feb 3, 2016 19:47:29 GMT -6
The MRPT's assertions and question demand reply, even at the cost of addressing others.
Yes, the RUMP did indeed oppose the blanket veto that the monarch held over all referenda. The very bill to which you link is proof, since it was explicitly designed to "strip this unilateral veto over amendments, and replace it with the ability to delay. If the monarch opposes an amendment, he may not reject it, but only send it back for a second plebiscite. If the people twice proclaim a law, then it is the law." The reasons were very clear, then and now. That is why I said at the time:
"No part of the government -- judicial, executive, legislative, or royal -- should be able to unilaterally enforce its will beyond any further appeal, as a safeguard against misdeeds, mismanagement, and malice. The Seneschal, the Ziu, the Cort, and the Throne all check each other. Malingering or misdoing Seneschals may see their government fall, their Cosa prorogued, or their persons convicted. Out-of-control Zius may see their legislation vetoed, their persons charged, or their body dissolved for a new election. Unjust Justices may be ejected from office with force and vim. And tyrant kings can be charged or removed. This same principle applies in legislation, which originates in the Ziu, may be vetoed by Seneschal or royal refusal, and which can be rejected by Cort.
"The monarchy is one of the most important parts of our small nation, and it has served as benison many times when Talossa would otherwise have fallen. We have seen its value, repeatedly, and it is one of the things that can best sustain such a unique and small country as the Kingdom of Talossa. But we also have seen its dangers, which is why every responsible representative, even down to the most ardent advocate for the throne, will not agree to absolutism."
I do not believe I have ever said that the MRPT are not "true monarchists" -- you seem to have made up that quote, which is unfortunate! But it is true I have said that the MRPT is too willing to sacrifice the monarchy in order to appease those who wish it eliminated. In Talossa, there are those who wish to reduce the role of the monarchy into a shadow of itself -- turning it into a presidency or a glorified spokesperson, or nothing more than an unpeopled symbol. I do not apologize for pointing this out, since I am proud that the RUMP has been and remains the most stalwart defender of the institution of the monarchy in the Kingdom of Talossa. Our reputation in that regard is so potent that it even overpowers people's perceptions about our actual issues, it seems, since we are already on the record as not just endorsing, but proposing reforms to that institution. The MRPT leader linked to the very bill in which I proposed turning His Majesty's unassailable veto into a temporary delay!
Make no mistake, there are changes that are necessary. The monarch should not have a veto on all referenda, which is why I and other RUMPers helped pass the 3/4 Majority Amendment proposed by an MRPTer... an amendment that this outgoing government has attempted to have thrown out before it could reach the people of Talossa for a democratic vote! Nor should the monarch be unaccountable in other ways -- as I wrote in the Maritiimi-Maxhestic debate, there should be a way to remove the monarch in extremis with a popular vote of some kind. But the devil will be in the details, and I do not apologize for saying that it's the RUMP that will guard the institution of the monarchy most carefully and most vigilantly -- nor do I think that is in dispute! There are people surprised to hear that I have endorsed reforms to the monarchy at all, and that I think them necessary... does anyone doubt that, when implementing these reforms, I will be the strongest advocate for that institution's future, when debating with those who want it eliminated?
But having answered these other issues, let me turn to the final question: I would not presume to tell the Moderate Radicals their business. I don't know what steps will be sufficient for them, or what they will require. I know that I intend to continue to support the 3/4 Majority Amendment, which eliminates the monarchy's veto on amendments, as the best alternative to my own bill to eliminate the monarchy's veto on amendments. I know that I intend to work on a bill to allow for a popular recall in extremis. I know that I have a strong record of working with people from other parties to find solutions that everyone can support -- witness the Telecomuna bill, the Civil Service bill, or the 3/4 Majority Amendment! And I know that Talossa is in desperate need for some change -- in need of strong and experienced leadership -- in need of concrete plans and proven solutions.
I hope that voters have confidence in us to provide those things, and I ask for your votes.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Feb 5, 2016 2:07:35 GMT -6
... it's been more than 24 hours, did Breneir Itravilatx forfeit his turn? I'm happy to wait another 12 hours for him.
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Post by Breneir Itravilatx on Feb 5, 2016 9:20:48 GMT -6
I pass on the chance to rebut.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Feb 5, 2016 13:52:54 GMT -6
Well, there's a buffet of silly worth rebutting, leavened with personal attacks, but I want to particularly focus on this contribution from the RUMP leader: Much ado has been made over a hypothetical lack of RUMPers. I asked Senator Etho Grischun about it, and he wasn't sure why. Neither was Sir Cresti, when I inquired of him, or Pol D'Auribuerg, or Dama Litz Cjantscheir, or Brad Holmes. Sir Trotxa has been posting again lately, and so had Lord Hooligan, so I asked them, too. It's not quite a Zombie Apocalypse, though that's fun to say, but let's make it clear. The people whom Sir Alexandreu lists above are overwhelmingly not active in Talossa. Sometimes, they are not active for political reasons - Captain Mick Preston pulled out of Talossa altogether once he lost his seat in Fortress Senäts. Sir Trotxâ disappeared for a year after he lost his Senäts seat (this was months BEFORE his personal tragedy). I do not think "sulking because our side lost the election" is a good status for people who want to take part in government. If they want to take part in a government. Notice that the cunning Sir Alexandreu never actually makes any promises that these people will take any active role in a government led by him - or denies that they started posting again on Witt (and then promptly disappeared again) at his urging, to make the party look good. A vote for the RUMP is a blank cheque handed to Sir Alexandreu. Of course, there are active and competent people in the RUMP. Sir Alexandreu is one. And two others have generously agreed to take part in a Free Democrat Cabinet of Talents, should we get the opportunity to form one. But there are other people who - and this is my sincere belief, I encourage evidence to the contrary - are only interested in Talossa if the RUMP are in control. If the elmundeu opinion poll proves accurate, it's possible that we'll won't see those people for dust. This does not pass the "fit and proper person" test, IMHO, for government office. But the Free Democrats stand on the basis of an "active and competent government team". No-one is going to call Dr Nordselvă, Admiral Asmourescù or the incumbent Seneschál of being sockpuppets or inactive. If we don't form a Government, we'll be a cracking-fine Opposition. The RUMP, as shown above, is almost-but-not-quite a one-man band at this point in history. The TNC is a one-man band in the sense of active members and I don't relish the personal abuse coming my way for pointing that out. The ModRads... well, they have a team, that's for sure, but the record of the last few months can speak to "active and competent".
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Feb 8, 2016 0:04:19 GMT -6
Are we doing closing statements...?
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Post by Marti-Pair Furxheir S.H. on Feb 9, 2016 4:34:01 GMT -6
Are we doing closing statements...? Yes, I guess it's time to start them... sorry, I was quite busy yesterday. The order is: Free Democrat, TNC, RUMP, MRPT, Each have 12 hours starting now.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Feb 9, 2016 13:25:43 GMT -6
Estimats cüncitaxhiêns: I hope you'll forgive me if this statement is slightly shorter on soaring eloquence than my previous contributions to this debate. Friends, this is because I am tired. I am absolutely exhausted, due to the pressure of the ongoing Cort case on OrgLaw amendments. When Seneschál Xheraltescù tapped me to be Attorney-General, I didn't want the job. I still don't. Talossa is supposed to be fun, and for me, writing legal briefs is about the opposite of "fun" - especially when I am being accused of corruptly colluding with an Uppermost Cort Justice, by (coincidentally!) the leader of another major party in this election. But the Seneschál tapped me because he knew I would do the job. Then, soon after, Senator Tresplet had to resign as Free Democrats leader, about ten minutes after we elected him, due to personal reasons. And the Free Democrats - even those who come from a monarchist background - elected me. Why? Because they knew I would do the job. You may not like me personally. Come to think of it, I'm not sure I do. Other party leaders have made quite eloquent arguments about why I'm a bully, and why therefore the anger and suspicion in Talossa is due to me. They could be right. Although it's funny to then watch them then turn around and decry the personalisation and "lack of comity" in Talossan politics. Friends, I implore you to watch my video speech on the subject. Talossa is not as fun as it could be. Talossa is not as well run as it could be. But the trap we have fallen into is to blame this on individuals. The idea that "if we just put HIM in his place", "just defeat HER in the election", "just get THEM to leave the country, and everything will be all right"... that's King Robert logic. The logic of winner-take-all politics. The idea that the point of Talossa is for The Good Guys to beat The Bad Guys. That's not the kind of country I want to live in. It is no fun for me right now precisely because of that kind of attitude, where Talossa is a game where you win or you lose. Nevertheless, I do the job. When I take on a responsibility, I complete it. This is why I am still in Talossa after 19 years in or around it. This is why I haven't just thrown up my hands and renounced at the childishness, personal vendettas and obstructionism in Talossan politics and law. By God, I wish I honestly could in good conscience, sometimes. So what you get with the Free Democrats: you get a candidate for Seneschál who does the job. You get an active and competent team who will help me do the job. Txec dal Nordselva, Admiral Tim Asmourescu, Carlüs Xheraltescu, Iustì Cornéir, and the two figures from another party have graciously agreed to serve in our shadow cabinet if we win - Sir Cresti Siervicül and Senator Eovart Grischün. You get an agenda for reform. The King needs to be put under control. He does what he wants, when he wants. There's an old saying that "if you really want reforms, vote for a revolutionary". If you vote for a monarchist party, no matter how committed to reform, there is a line which they will not cross - the line of "respect for the monarchy". They will always back down faced with that line. The Free Democrats, as a party which does not shy from the word republic, will NOT back down. We will achieve a Head of State under democratic control - if you give us the Cosa and Senäts delegations to make it happen. You also get an agenda for judicial reform. I can't really comment in great detail because I don't want to show contempt for the Cort. But I look forward to the current case being concluded - one way or another - so I can tell you all about the lessons I've learned from it. You get an agenda for Chancery reform. I look forward to working with the Secretary of State to set up Telecomuna, our nationalised official discussion forum; to get a Census happening; and to introduce succession planning, so that the SoS could, in fact, leave office one day without the whole Database falling to bits. You also get support for non-political Talossa. We need more ways to "be Talossan" which don't take place in the combative arenas of politics and law. We need more culture - particularly more "civic" culture, rather than those arenas associated with the monarchy. We need a strong civil service made up of those who like doing a job, not politicised appointees. And we need more support for ár glheþ naziunál and its use. This becomes of personal interest to me, because - and I don't believe I've said this in public before - win or lose in this election, after the 49th Cosa is over, I will return to the backbenches, or possibly leave politics altogether, I'm not sure. This stuff is killing me. It is encouraging me to act like a person I don't want to act like. There are also more personal issues I will discuss once the election is over. But I can't give up yet, because the Free Democrats have trusted me to see this election campaign through, and because the Seneschál trusted me to do the job as Attorney General. I want to go back to my farm like Cincinnatus after this term is over. "The farm" being the Talossan language enthusiasm which brought me to Talossa in the first place (and maybe Fiova provincial politics and culture as well). So you will see that the Free Democrats' Civil Society/Civil Service platform is of personal interest. One way or another, estimats cüncitaxhiêns, this will be my last election for a long while as a party leader or a candidate for a Cabinet post. I am giving myself one more Cosa term to finish the jobs which I have started and which I have promised to do. While it's a sore burden on me, I cannot in good conscience do any less. And after that, I will prepare my successors. To make things change, vote Free Democrat. ¡Så vivadra Talossa! ¡Så vivadra Talossa democrätic!
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Post by Breneir Itravilatx on Feb 9, 2016 23:37:55 GMT -6
Thank you to Marti-Pair for moderating this debate and to Dr. dal Nordselva for helping as well. Thank you to my fellow co-debaters Sir Davinescu, Dama Schiva and S:reu da Schir for the spirited and informed discourse which I hope has helped better inform the citizenry as we get closer to voting. In this venue, at least, it has been respectful and has hopefully expanded the possibilities for cross-partisan bridge-building and collaboration. My fellow citizens, by now you know the issues. You know we need a monarch who will interact with his realm with renewed vigor. You know we need governmental reform to increase efficiency and ensure accountability. You know we need opportunities for each Talossan to self-actualize through cultural affairs to the benefit of each one of us AND all of us. The question now? Which party? Which leader? The Talossan National Congress presents itself through me as party leader, through its list of volunteers as future MZs and through its commitment to work WITH other parties to achieve through necessary compromise and principled vision a program of action to solve the very issues you and I are now intimately familiar with. Please do see our platform where we present our ideas for improving Talossan governance and engendering a renewed flourishing of our culture. We present our platform not as a list of promises but as a list of potential solutions to the problems you and I are now intimately familiar with. More importantly, we present our platform and our candidates with respect for the wisdom gleaned from an informed people freely exercising their rights and responsibilities as the ultimate sovereign.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Feb 10, 2016 13:07:09 GMT -6
It's been 12 hours? Does the RUMP leader forfeit?
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Lüc da Schir
Senator for Benito
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Feb 10, 2016 13:22:51 GMT -6
This is a bit of a problem for me. I kind of hoped I would have been able to make my statement now, but it's not my turn, and I won't be able to log in again on my computer before tomorrow afternoon, which is in roughly 17 hours. Therefore, I might not be able to post my closing statement on time either, and this is really unfortunate.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Feb 10, 2016 13:35:37 GMT -6
I'll be done in a few minutes, Dama Miestra I have a full-time job, and I too am working on a cort case. Good try, though! EDIT: Luc, I very much doubt anyone will begrudge you the extra time. It's closing statements, and the election isn't for days yet.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Feb 10, 2016 13:37:03 GMT -6
Citizens of the Kingdom of Talossa: The last time were in power, three terms ago, the RUMP didn't get much done at all. Under Seneschal dal Nordselva (now of the FDT), we found that we'd run out of energy and run out of ideas. We said it then and we'll say it now: we did a lousy job. We probably deserved to lose. Now, three terms and two years later, we've got new ideas and new plans. We're ready.
It's time to get Talossa moving again!We've Got Plans The RUMP's accomplishments are legendary. RUMP governments gave us TalossaWiki, stamps available for purchase, TalossaWare merchandise to promote the country, the designs for coins, Terpelaziuns to hold the government accountable, free Talossan ID cards to show off, the printing and distribution of promotional flyers in the GTA, the acquisition of Shiny Objects that give real physical reality to our culture, an actual census to find out about our citizens, our modern system of government with the Household and Cabinet acts, we created the New Citizens Welcoming Page, and so much more. Even out of power, we've accomplished a huge amount through legislation. One of the most significant accomplishments of the past two years of coalition government was the creation of el Lexhatx, our legal code... and the government had virtually nothing to do with it! Hundreds of contradictory and lost statutes have been assembled and systematized in a legal code that passed both houses of the Ziu unanimously. I led that project. The RUMP led that project. Now we're ready to do that for you again.Some of our plans are new ideas with a fresh perspective. We want to run a fundraiser, for example, so that the king doesn't have to keep paying for our web-hosting out of his own pocket every year. We want to set up a Kickstarter to fund coins, the same way we successfully did for stamps. We think every minister should be required to publicly post a list of projects and expected deadlines. Some of our plans are about bringing back our successful programs. Under a RUMP government, expect to see: ID cards, TalossaWare, a census, and more. You know we can do it again, because we did it before.Some of our plans are just about making better decisions. We printed stamps, so why are hundreds of them gathering dust on a shelf? Let's sell them. We made MemRise language courses, so why aren't they available anywhere from our websites? Let's link to them! All of these plans are about making Talossa and your life as a Talossan better. We've Got Talent The RUMP has been fortunate in our party members. The Free Democrats have promised to appoint Sir Cresti and Senator Grischun to their Cabinet, should they win. We'd add to that number Dama Litz, Pol d'Aurìbuerg, and others (we have many members returning to activity, in addition to those active folks, but we're not sure yet how many could commit to taking up a full term in a Cabinet position). I will also, hopefully, be chosen by my party to be Seneschal. I will bring to the job a successful first term in that office (my own self-deprecation in my wiki entry aside!) where we designed stamps, distributed flyers, protected our copyright, put together the money and purchased an official seal stamp for the Secretary of State, and other projects. Since then, I have been one of the most active legislators in the country, putting together compromise legislation to solve important problems. In addition to our legal code, I have worked to produce the bill for the prospective new forum, Telecomuna, as well as the Civil Service and the election guidance procedure. And of course, I have put together the most successful news organization in the country, Beric'ht Talossan -- publishing every fortnight for a year and a half without once missing a deadline. We also look forward to working with other people who are eager to help their country, as the RUMP has always done. There are people from the MRPT, TNC, and FDT who are amazing and skilled, and we'd love to have them on board. No matter who is on our team, though, we're the only party that has committed ahead of time to clear steps for accountability:The RUMP promises: 1. We will not miss any of the legally required government activity reports. 2. We will update the national web properties to reflect ongoing government projects, and update them regularly from the beginning of the term to the end. 3. We will update the national web properties with accurate staffing and contact information, immediately, and keep it updated throughout all changes. 4. In the first month of office, the Seneschal will require all ministers to create and report to the Ziu their planned projects in significant detail, including timelines and specific dates for completion. 5. Every government official will be required to know the laws that apply to them and to know all their required duties. 6. If a minister feels overwhelmed, asks for help, or needs a break, we will not ignore them. We will act to help them. No one stands alone. 7. If need be, an inactive minister will be promptly replaced. This doesn't mean being a jerk about it. 8. If we don't do any of this, you can quote this back at us and rub our faces in it. We Stand Ready It's been two years, folks. It's time for a change. Let's talk frankly for a moment. The FDT has led this past government, but it's done such a poor job that the Seneschal felt he needed to apologize to the country. His willingness to own up is admirable, but there have been serious failures of leadership and judgment. We'd love to work with their incoming leader and prospective Seneschal, but she too has her problems. Sir Cresti worked hard on producing the "First Steps in Talossan" and MemRise language materials, so why are they being forgotten and ignored, without even a single link online? It's the same story with stamps, sitting on a shelf and collecting dust. It's just a waste. The government needs to get it together and promote these sorts of assets. The members of the FDT are good people and patriotic people, and we look forward to working with them, but they've shown that they need a break. The RUMP stands ready to put our assets to work. The MRPT has had its own issues. Two MRPT members held two of the most important Cabinet jobs (Finance and STUFF), and they both dropped the ball. The websites didn't get updated, social media was literally entirely ignored, and the coins project is barely a jot closer to becoming reality. They have pointed out that the Seneschal never asked for resignations, but I'm not sure that's good enough. Yes, the Seneschal should hold ministers accountable and not hang them out to dry, but they're still responsible for their own work, or lack thereof. The members of the MRPT are also good and patriotic people, no less than the FDT, though, and we look forward to working with them, but they too have shown they need a break. The RUMP stands ready to lead. I don't have much criticism for the TNC, honestly, which might seem unfair. But they're new in town, and have no record to show us. We'll give them a chance, but the RUMP has a proven record of accomplishment. The RUMP stands ready to get things done. We're Ready to Work with Others Let me say some good things, too, about our opponents -- frank talk should also be true talk, and they're awesome in many ways. The FDT is led by a passionate politician whose fierce advocacy for the end of the monarchy is admirable, even if I disagree with it. She has also been noted for her role with our national language, and for her efforts to clean up the law. If it were not for her urging that we needed a simpler legal system, I must admit I probably never would have gotten together our legal code. The current Seneschal is an eloquent and astonishingly talented politician, and always is ready to work with people from other parties. There are many other amazing members of the FDT, too, for they are a party of proud ideals and professional organization. The MRPT sets an admirable tone in political discourse, especially through one of its main spokespeople, former Seneschal da Dhi. Their recognition that hardball politics doesn't have to be nasty politics, and their willingness to be firm but fair, is one of the best things about them. Especially in Maritiimi-Maxhestic, they have been active in the provinces, and deserve recognition for that, too. And for all that they have made mistakes, I know the ModRads are competent and reliable. The TNC is led by a respected leader who has set out on his own with a new small party, and that is a proud part of the Talossan tradition. I wish them the best of luck. We're Ready to Get Things Done That's my best pitch. But I've been an active Talossan for nearly a solid decade, and I and my party have accomplished a huge amount. I hope that the voters of Talossa see their way through to trusting us to get some more accomplished for them. Thank you. tldr; we've got some solid plans and a solid procedure for doing them, we have great people, and we have an amazing record to show we can get stuff done. We're probably the best choice, although other folks have some great stuff about them. We're ready to work for you. Please vote RUMP.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Feb 11, 2016 3:18:24 GMT -6
Don't mind waiting a few more hours for you, Lüc, but make it good.
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Lüc da Schir
Senator for Benito
If Italy wins a Six Nations match I will join the Zouaves
Posts: 4,125
Talossan Since: 3-21-2012
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Feb 11, 2016 17:25:03 GMT -6
I would like to kick my closing statement off by thanking Martì-Pair and Txec for hosting and moderating the debate, and Alexandreu, Miestra and Breneir for taking part in it. It has been a fine couple of fortnights that will no doubt help the voters make up their minds. Fellow Talossans, I would like to thank you as well for attending the debate. Let me take this opportunity to tell you once again why you may want to place your trust in the Moderate Radicals and cast your vote for us in the upcoming General Election. A vote for the Moderate Radicals is a vote for monarchy reform. We have been on the frontline in the past year as far as ensuring the Monarch does his job in a democratic way that takes into account the wish of the people and the Ziu (and I'm talking about more than 80% of Yes votes in the referendum and unanimous approval of the Ziu, that's far more than 50%+1). The MRPT's leader in the Cosa Ian Plätschisch has been perhaps the most active among the legislators when it comes to taking measures to ensure the democratic will of the people is followed. The MRPT is not a party of republicans, but it isn't a party of hardline monarchists either. We are staunch supporters of a monarchy which can be accepted by as many Talossans as possible, and be the true representative of the Talossan people that many of us moderate monarchists would like to see. A vote for the Moderate Radicals is a vote for provinces that make sense. Wherever the MRPT is present, provincially speaking, a MRPT member has created six of the ten most recent posts. We are keeping our provinces up and running wherever Talossans entrust us with their vote. We are constantly paying back the trust you gave us with effective activity at the provincial level. The Moderate Radicals strongly believe that provinces should be meaningful and made of people from the same geographic area rather than being mere Senatorial constituencies and/or clubs of interest. That's because we want you to truly feel at home in your province, to be able to perhaps actually meet your Cybercit friends in real life, to make provinces something worth having again. We have already presented a number of proposals on that matter, and we will keep on fighting. A vote for the Moderate Radicals is a vote for liberalism and progressivism. We have helped draft and supported measures that increase the personal freedom of Talossan citizens, from this bill by Glüc da Dhi proposing the legalisation of cannabis back in 2011, to my bill in 2014 proposing to allow every citizen to take part in the political process by enabling them to propose bills, to Magniloqueu da Lhiun's efforts for fair justice, to our support of various proposals against illiberal sections of our laws. Oh, and we also want you to actually know who you are voting for. Most importantly, someone might remember this: Guess what? We actually did it. We managed to end the illiberal restrictions on foreign policy and on the citizens' right to join whichever micronations they wish. A vote for the Moderate Radicals is not a spoiled vote. Whether or not the MRPT will sit in the next Cabinet, our party will still certainly have a considerable leverage on the government of the day as we already hold a relative majority in the Senate and any government will need the support of our MCs if they wish to successfully complete their term without failing on the matter of Confidence. But the most important thing I wanted to mention is that we have been consistently active, legislatively speaking, all through the last term and the terms before that as well. Unlike other parties, we are not afraid of compromise and bargaining if that means carrying our agenda forward and implementing what we've promised in our Manifesto. We are for building bridges, not destroying them. We are for making deals, not wasting our time in mudslinging, bickering and personal attacks. We have never resorted to vicious attacks on the opposition through anonymous cartoons and press, and we never will. Talossa's political climate has been very heated in recent times due to the constant warmongering between the two biggest parties. Talossa needs a strong centrist alternative, which we are providing, or it will fall in a pit of political hatred and animosity.So dear Talossans, if you believe in liberalism, progressivism, more personal freedom and greater privacy, active provinces with catchment areas that finally make sense, a reformed monarchy, apolitical cultural endeavors, then please do consider casting your vote for the Moderate Radicals. We have recently released our Manifesto on our forum and it's a quite lighter reading compared to this one, so we hope you're going to take a peek there and see for yourself what we have to offer.
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Post by Marti-Pair Furxheir S.H. on Feb 11, 2016 19:08:32 GMT -6
And that concludes the 49th Cosa debate.
I am happy with the results and, if granted this opportunity again for the 50th, I have brand new ideas to make the debate better.
I would like to thank the participants and the Royal Society for hosting it.
While I do not accept payment, I am having a hard time finding apple cinamon bread based snacks (bagles, morning round, etc...) and would accept home deliveries of such fresh products. Do not send them by mail... they would be ruined!
(Please take that last paragraph as the funny banther I can once again make and not a serious suggestion)
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