Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă
Puisne (Associate) Justice of the Uppermost Court
Fraichetz dels punts, es non dels mürs
Posts: 4,063
Talossan Since: 9-23-2012
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on Jan 3, 2016 6:35:31 GMT -6
Second Vote: Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN , Sir C. M. Siervicül , Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN , Nicholas Hayes , Ieremiac'h Ventrutx , Prince Patrick , Ian Plätschisch Article 2 - Vote për to keep it, contra to remove it, or modify to change it. Voting will run for 3 days and end on January 6, 2016 at 9:30am Talossan Time.
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Ian Plätschisch
Senator for Maritiimi-Maxhestic
Posts: 4,001
Talossan Since: 3-21-2015
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Jan 3, 2016 8:13:16 GMT -6
Modify
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Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă
Puisne (Associate) Justice of the Uppermost Court
Fraichetz dels punts, es non dels mürs
Posts: 4,063
Talossan Since: 9-23-2012
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on Jan 3, 2016 9:51:29 GMT -6
Modify
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jan 3, 2016 12:49:23 GMT -6
Modify
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Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN
Puisne Justice; Chancellor of the Royal Talossan Bar; Cunstaval to Florencia
Dame & Former Seneschal
Posts: 1,157
Talossan Since: 4-5-2010
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
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Post by Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN on Jan 3, 2016 12:57:11 GMT -6
Modify
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jan 3, 2016 13:35:29 GMT -6
Point of order. If we vote to Modify, will that be the next order of business? Or will we go through the rest of the OrgLaw first, then come back to the "Modify" sections?
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Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă
Puisne (Associate) Justice of the Uppermost Court
Fraichetz dels punts, es non dels mürs
Posts: 4,063
Talossan Since: 9-23-2012
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on Jan 3, 2016 16:03:40 GMT -6
Good question. Let's get through all the Articles first then go back and work on those that need modification.
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Sir C. M. Siervicül
Posts: 9,636
Talossan Since: 8-13-2005
Knight Since: 7-28-2007
Motto: Nonnisi Deo serviendum
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Jan 4, 2016 16:24:07 GMT -6
Modify.
On Dame Miestra's point of order, I doubt there are any other articles that anyone will want to simply delete the way Article I has been proposed for deletion, and there may be few articles anyone would vote to retain completely unchanged. We may spend the next 2+ months, then, going through each of the remaining articles to have everyone vote "modify" on all of them, just to go back to the beginning to discuss the details of the modifications.
Maybe the next vote can be a quick poll asking the members for their starting position on each of the remaining articles: retain, delete, modify, or combine with another article.
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Lüc da Schir
Senator for Benito
If Italy wins a Six Nations match I will join the Zouaves
Posts: 4,125
Talossan Since: 3-21-2012
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Post by Lüc da Schir on Jan 4, 2016 17:37:12 GMT -6
*pokes in* *throws note* Good spotting! Let the Royal Commission know. *runs away*
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jan 4, 2016 17:38:26 GMT -6
... and just while I was setting up the Suggestion Box outside, too. Never mind.
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Ieremiac'h Ventrutx
Former Senator of Florencia ~ Citizen of Talossa
Posts: 990
Talossan Since: 3-1-1997
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Post by Ieremiac'h Ventrutx on Jan 4, 2016 21:49:38 GMT -6
Modify
Side Note : I am freakishly busy and need more than 3 days. If I have not voted then I would like my default vote to be "Keep It" We have three new dandelions at our house trying to take root here in my family. But I promise I will try to be more involved and less vocal (you are welcome)
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jan 4, 2016 21:57:49 GMT -6
With respect, Mr Chair, I don't think this can be allowed. A member of the Commission who doesn't vote should count as not having voted, simple as that. To have someone throw down a pre-emptive "Keep" vote on everything makes a mockery of the Commission and its membership.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jan 4, 2016 21:58:21 GMT -6
Also, is there some point at which we will just assume that Prince Patrick and Nick Hayes are not interested, and cease waiting for their input?
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Ieremiac'h Ventrutx
Former Senator of Florencia ~ Citizen of Talossa
Posts: 990
Talossan Since: 3-1-1997
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Post by Ieremiac'h Ventrutx on Jan 6, 2016 11:43:50 GMT -6
Well I would ask for 5-7 day minimum between votes. I would be willing to tackle two articles at once to speed this along. As for the missing Prince and Hayes, is there a precedence for cutting them out of the commission? Do we just move forward and as a consensus not listen to future input on articles already covered or can they come in at the last minute and make us have to go backward?
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Jan 6, 2016 21:54:32 GMT -6
I would personally want the King to replace Patrick and simply ignore Hayes. But move forward without them in any case.
5-7 days minimum between votes seems all right to me. We are not in a huge rush.
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