Ian Plätschisch
Senator for Maritiimi-Maxhestic
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Talossan Since: 3-21-2015
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Oct 17, 2015 16:43:10 GMT -6
WHEREAS Closed provinces cause people to be assigned to a province different from where the catchment areas indicate they should, and
WHEREAS We work really hard on the catchment areas, so we should use them, and
WHEREAS If citizens are distributed without regard for their location, the provinces become solely "Senatorial Voting Clubs" without geographical meaning, and
WHEREAS What is a geographical division if it has no geographical meaning?
THEREFORE Lex.E.7.13, Lex.E.7.14, and Lex.E.7.15, which currently read;
Are hereby repealed.
FURTHERMORE Lex.E.10.7. which currently reads;
shall be amended to read;
Noi Urent q'estadra så; Ian Plätschisch (MC-MRPT) C. Carlüs Xheraltescù (MC-FDA) Munditenens Tresplet (Senator-Maricopa)
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Ian Plätschisch
Senator for Maritiimi-Maxhestic
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Talossan Since: 3-21-2015
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Oct 20, 2015 15:06:34 GMT -6
Such lack of discussion must surely indicate unanimous approval! Or perhaps it is just a boring bill to comment on...
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Oct 20, 2015 16:10:06 GMT -6
Honestly, this is just such a big thing I haven't had time to think much about it!
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Oct 20, 2015 16:18:02 GMT -6
This is an interesting one; I'm going to have to give this some thought before I commit either way.
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Ian Plätschisch
Senator for Maritiimi-Maxhestic
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Talossan Since: 3-21-2015
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Oct 20, 2015 16:25:48 GMT -6
This is an interesting one; I'm going to have to give this some thought before I commit either way. From the coalition agreement;
So, while you may find you need to ponder it, it shouldn't have come as a surprise, hopefully
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Oct 20, 2015 17:13:08 GMT -6
This is an interesting one; I'm going to have to give this some thought before I commit either way. From the coalition agreement;
So, while you may find you need to ponder it, it shouldn't have come as a surprise, hopefully You don't need to quote the agreement I wrote, don't you worry. The concern is over the language you use, and the more precise changes you want to bring about. As I said, I'll want to think about this further before commenting further.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Oct 20, 2015 17:45:31 GMT -6
I like it.
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Post by Magniloqueu Épiqeu da Lhiun on Oct 20, 2015 18:55:21 GMT -6
Barring any idiotic oversights that I may have committed while reading through your proposal, I will say that I like it.
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Ian Plätschisch
Senator for Maritiimi-Maxhestic
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Talossan Since: 3-21-2015
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Oct 20, 2015 19:04:42 GMT -6
I don't think this proposal is overly complicated. Very simple, I would say. All I did was remove all references to "closed provinces"
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Sir C. M. Siervicül
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Oct 20, 2015 23:10:15 GMT -6
I thought this was part of Lüc's provincial reform bill, but I must have been imagining things. I like it. I would suggest expanding on 10.7 to specify how you change provincial assignments (e.g. by informing the SoS that you want to change, and the SoS verifying that you live in the catchment area of the new province).
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Ian Plätschisch
Senator for Maritiimi-Maxhestic
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Talossan Since: 3-21-2015
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Oct 21, 2015 5:21:16 GMT -6
While that change sounds like a good idea, I would rather not deal with multiple issues in one bill (the last time I tried that, it didn't work so well). 10.7 was already there, all I did was eliminate references to closed provinces.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Oct 22, 2015 14:42:40 GMT -6
I thought this was part of Lüc's provincial reform bill, but I must have been imagining things. I like it. I would suggest expanding on 10.7 to specify how you change provincial assignments (e.g. by informing the SoS that you want to change, and the SoS verifying that you live in the catchment area of the new province). I actually agree with Sir Cresti; this is what I was trying to work out what was missing the first time I read through this properly. It's probably legislatively prudent to include within this bill some indication as to the formal procedure, even in a vague form, as to how one might go about switching. Simply by adding 'by notifying the Chancery' to your amended 10.7, this would be solved. It makes it clear who's responsible for administering the change. If you could make that change, I'd be happy to co-sponsor.
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Ian Plätschisch
Senator for Maritiimi-Maxhestic
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Talossan Since: 3-21-2015
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Post by Ian Plätschisch on Oct 22, 2015 14:48:11 GMT -6
I added "by notifying the Chancery" and added you as a co-sponsor. I think I will be putting this on the November Clark, unless a major problem crops up.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Oct 22, 2015 14:54:12 GMT -6
Excellent, thank you. Might be wise to include something along the lines of 'The move will be officially recognised once the Chancery has validated the request' as well, come to think of it.
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Post by Munditenens Tresplet on Oct 22, 2015 16:04:25 GMT -6
I would be happy to co-sponsor as well.
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