Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă
Puisne (Associate) Justice of the Uppermost Court
Fraichetz dels punts, es non dels mürs
Posts: 4,063
Talossan Since: 9-23-2012
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on Dec 16, 2014 7:25:30 GMT -6
Fellow Talossans,
For some time now, I have been contemplating and talking with my colleague in the Magistrates Court and fellow Judge Owen Edwards about what is important in Talossa. His political party, the Progressives, have an impressive and well-thought out manifesto to which I found absolutely no fault and found myself agreeing with every point.
To that end, I am announcing publicly that I am leaving the RUMP party and joining my friend Owen in the Progressive Party. During my time in the RUMP as its whip, leader, and Seneschal, I grew to make many good friends whom I hope will not desert me now as I make a change in my political life in our great kingdom.
Regards, Txec
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Dec 16, 2014 7:46:03 GMT -6
Fellow Talossans, For some time now, I have been contemplating and talking with my colleague in the Magistrates Court and fellow Judge Owen Edwards about what is important in Talossa. His political party, the Progressives, have an impressive and well-thought out manifesto to which I found absolutely no fault and found myself agreeing with every point. To that end, I am announcing publicly that I am leaving the RUMP party and joining my friend Owen in the Progressive Party. During my time in the RUMP as its whip, leader, and Seneschal, I grew to make many good friends whom I hope will not desert me now as I make a change in my political life in our great kingdom. Regards, Txec Interesting. What is it that convinced you to change parties? Was it a specific policy?
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Dec 16, 2014 7:57:18 GMT -6
I and the rest of the RUMP are very sad to hear this, and completely surprised. That said, we wish Txec well, and we're glad of the time we were privileged to serve in the same party as him. I look forward to working with him in the future.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Dec 16, 2014 13:15:29 GMT -6
Cxhn. Nordselvâ has long been my favourite conservative-monarchist, and it's excellent to see him making such a principled move.
I can understand his reason for not bagging on his RUMP friends, and it's unkind to kick a party when it's down; but it would be nice to hear more of his views of Talossa's future, and why it's a Prog one.
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Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă
Puisne (Associate) Justice of the Uppermost Court
Fraichetz dels punts, es non dels mürs
Posts: 4,063
Talossan Since: 9-23-2012
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on Dec 16, 2014 13:30:38 GMT -6
I have a plethora of reasons for changing political affiliations and most of them have to with more my own idealogy than the leanings of the RUMP. I respect those in the RUMP and believe there is much to be valued. However, since August, when I read the party manifesto of the Progressives, I realized I shared much in common. Here are some of my thoughts.
The first plank was to consolidate some of the cabinet offices and that is something I can agree with, at least in principle. I wasn't too pleased with how it was handled via PD and then a follow-up bill, but I remember with some consternation that much of the reason for inactivity in my own government in the last Clarks were because of the consistent struggle I had to fill all the positions. Doing everything by oneself gets tiresome and creates burnout (which it did in me).
The second plank, humanitarianism is lofty but I believe a worthy goal. We should strive to be a city on a hill. Talossa is a place where we can come together and make something wonderful. Too many times, however, the tone has become frightening and hostile - a situation I don't like. For example, during the Talossaleaks period, I was infuriated at BOTH sides for how it was handled. The tone was hideous and not worthy of our time. Sometimes I think it is easy to forget that there are PEOPLE behind the creative Talossan names.
The third plank, Monarchism, is a non-negotiable for me. I came to Talossa precisely BECAUSE of the Monarchy. I have personally met the King and found him to be companionable and interesting. I am not really in favor of nationalizing Wittenberg to the extent some in the government would desire but I do think perhaps there are alternatives that avoid nationalizing what can be argued is someone elses property. This isn't Venezuela after all.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Dec 16, 2014 13:52:14 GMT -6
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Owen Edwards
Puisne Justice
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Talossan Since: 12-8-2007
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Post by Owen Edwards on Dec 19, 2014 17:10:51 GMT -6
I'm really pleased to have Txec on board. He's a gentle, decent man who aligns closely with a lot of Prog values. I also think it'd good at this moment to show some honour to Sir Alex for his handling of this change - it shows up macronational politics, where this sort of conscience-induced switch is treated as utmost treachery so often. Talossa really can be a place of light.
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Post by Gödafrïeu Válcadác’h on Dec 26, 2014 21:51:59 GMT -6
I'm really pleased to have Txec on board. He's a gentle, decent man who aligns closely with a lot of Prog values. I also think it'd good at this moment to show some honour to Sir Alex for his handling of this change - it shows up macronational politics, where this sort of conscience-induced switch is treated as utmost treachery so often. Talossa really can be a place of light. Ca. 2001-ish, Ben Madison made a statement to the effect if one changes one's political party in Talossa, it's tantamount to a betrayal. Being an utter newbie, I believed him, and it was far-more difficult for me to leave the Talossan Opposition of that time for PC than it should have been. In retrospect, I ought never to have joined the PC in the first place, but that's another story. So, so glad Talossan politics is - on its public face, at least - as civilized and as 'normal' as it is right now. Well-done to all associated with thie latest political happening. GV
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
Seneschal
the new Jim Hacker
Posts: 6,635
Talossan Since: 6-25-2004
Dame Since: 9-8-2012
Motto: Expulseascâ, reveneascâ
Baron Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
Duke Since: Feudal titles are for gimps
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Dec 27, 2014 0:04:05 GMT -6
Ca. 2001-ish, Ben Madison made a statement to the effect if one changes one's political party in Talossa, it's tantamount to a betrayal. Being an utter newbie, I believed him, and it was far-more difficult for me to leave the Talossan Opposition of that time for PC than it should have been. What did KR1's latter-day behaviour resemble most: abusive husband, political dictator, or religious cult leader? (Trick question: they're all pretty much the same dynamic, using different methods of control. But Ben's great ability to appear charming, self-deprecating and sensible to outsiders is classic abusive husband behaviour.)
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Post by Béneditsch Ardpresteir, O.SPM. on Jan 3, 2015 12:47:41 GMT -6
In Talossa, we are supposed to wear many a hats... I take it as an insult to the judicial system that the sitting Magistrates discuss politics in their free time and chalk out cross-overs. Had it been discussed in the foyers of the Cosa by the two MCs it would have been totally acceptable. (Just speaking my mind out as if this is a chat room - in fact requested this thread to be shifted to the Chat section.)
When I am in the Courthouse on the Bench, I'm totally apolitical, but elsewhere I do the RUMP dance.
Btw, request this thread to be shifted to the Chat Room as change of political affiliations of a particular individual are simply informative.
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Jan 3, 2015 13:52:53 GMT -6
I don't think we should move it to the Chat Room; more conversations ought to happen out in the open
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Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă
Puisne (Associate) Justice of the Uppermost Court
Fraichetz dels punts, es non dels mürs
Posts: 4,063
Talossan Since: 9-23-2012
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Post by Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă on Jan 4, 2015 10:29:49 GMT -6
In Talossa, we are supposed to wear many a hats... I take it as an insult to the judicial system that the sitting Magistrates discuss politics in their free time and chalk out cross-overs. Had it been discussed in the foyers of the Cosa by the two MCs it would have been totally acceptable. (Just speaking my mind out as if this is a chat room - in fact requested this thread to be shifted to the Chat section.) When I am in the Courthouse on the Bench, I'm totally apolitical, but elsewhere I do the RUMP dance. Btw, request this thread to be shifted to the Chat Room as change of political affiliations of a particular individual are simply informative. What are you even talking about? What insult is it that I switched parties. I seem to recall you doing the same thing.
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Post by Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù on Jan 4, 2015 10:34:39 GMT -6
Ooo magistrate fight :S
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Post by Béneditsch Ardpresteir, O.SPM. on Jan 10, 2015 5:33:52 GMT -6
Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă: Er.. I don't have any problem with crossovers. Its just that it feels odd when the Magistrates talk politics. Had you said that you two had met outside the Ziu and you had a change of thought it would have been perfect. Nothing personal, my friend - just speaking my mind out. Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù: How are you my friend? Your friend didn't join Talossa. Did you tell him that you were now part of the government??
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Post by Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù on Jan 10, 2015 10:21:17 GMT -6
Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù: How are you my friend? Your friend didn't join Talossa. Did you tell him that you were now part of the government?? Oh tim, im not sure it was ever his intention of joining but was curious to find out it as a consept
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