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Post by Eðo Grischun on Nov 12, 2009 21:37:20 GMT -6
My fellow Member....Talossa is broken.
This current administration has failed to provide this years TalossaFEST celebrations on the important 30th anniversary.
We are over half way through this term and the government has failed to achieve ANYTHING. Forget about legislation, where are the inititives? Even if I give this government the benefit of the doubt and say that this was to be a term of planning and development...where are the plans?
Plans on moving currency forward? Stamps? Anything?
The government transparancy act called for the PM to write a report once in a while detailing whats going on within the executive. He hasn't really done it. He has got his Distain to write some fancy, fluffy language that doesnt really lead us anywhere on two seperate occassions . There is a reason for the reports to be fancy and fluffy and full of nothing.....the reason is that there isn't even anything to put in the reports because nothing is being done, not even behind closed doors.
The people in charge here are all great fellows, and I mean no disrespect to them personally, please believe me. But, theres no work being done. Hell, only half of the cabinet are even active on witt. Shouldn't the PM or Party Leader be 'whipping' these folk to meet some manifesto promises....oh, wait, I forgot that this administration managed to achieve 105 seats without a manifesto!
sir, Talossa is Broken....Talossa needs fixing!
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Nov 12, 2009 21:38:49 GMT -6
Also: What plans does the Government have... if any, for future Talossan development. I have seen little to know RUMP legislation being put out. What's with that? While most strictly a question for the head of the party rather than the head of government, the Office of the Seneschal can certainly say that many of the highest muckity-mucks in the RUMP have been devoting their time of late to not-inconsiderable efforts in extragovernmental activities. For example, one of the lesser-know but promising luminaries, Lord Hooligan, published an entire complete and updated grammar guide recently. And some other guy (whose name I forget) is editing a guide for citizens that is now running a bit behind schedule. The RUMP as a party is pleased with all the Talossan activities of its members, even if we seldom propose new holidays. |
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Nov 12, 2009 22:36:31 GMT -6
" Forget about legislation, where are the inititives? "
If there is no perceived need for change, then there is no need for initiatives
" The government transparancy act called for the PM to write a report once in a while detailing whats going on within the executive. "
Agreed. And so far, the PM has diligently followed that schedule. The 40th Cosa is not yet over. What's the rush?
" But, theres no work being done."
Senator Davis addressed that - much work is being done.
" I forgot that this administration managed to to achieve 105 seats without a manifesto! "
Thank you for making my point that the Citizens are satisfied with the RUMP's ability to run the Government. I appreciate you following up my ideas with facts. Obviously, the majority of Talossian Citizens agree with the pace and procedure of the RUMP party.
Perhaps your concept of "broken" needs to be re-examined?
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Post by Dréu Gavárþic'h on Nov 13, 2009 7:03:21 GMT -6
Thank you, gentlemen. You're responses have sufficed. However, I would like to hear from the executive himself as well--I see the terpelaziuns as not just a way to keep the PM on his toes, but also active! If he can't answer the questions, then we know he's not active and we need to rethink things (not that I don't think Iustì will answer these questions shortly).
Thank you.
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Post by Breneir Itravilatx on Nov 13, 2009 14:27:19 GMT -6
I was under the assumption, perhaps now mistaken, that the Secretary of State was a nonpartisan position. Captain Preston please enlighten me on this if I am mistaken but should you affirm that the position that you now occupy is indeed one in which is nonpartisan than I must question the honorable Cosa member from the RUMP (M-M) who claims that you are currently "defending the government".
Please note that this is merely an attempt at clarification.
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Post by Iustì Carlüs Canun on Nov 13, 2009 14:48:35 GMT -6
Thank you, gentlemen. You're responses have sufficed. However, I would like to hear from the executive himself as well. I don't believe I can provide better answers than the Distáin and the SoS have already given. (Good job, guys. I was away from the computer until nearly midnight on the day all this happened. Thanks.) |
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Post by Daniel Filan on Nov 13, 2009 17:21:40 GMT -6
I was under the assumption, perhaps now mistaken, that the Secretary of State was a nonpartisan position. Captain Preston please enlighten me on this if I am mistaken but should you affirm that the position that you now occupy is indeed one in which is nonpartisan than I must question the honorable Cosa member from the RUMP (M-M) who claims that you are currently "defending the government". Please note that this is merely an attempt at clarification. Given that he is not currently tallying votes, and that he is in fact a RUMP member of the Cosa, perhaps it is allowable for him to occasionally act in a partisan manner? |
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Post by Breneir Itravilatx on Nov 13, 2009 17:59:43 GMT -6
I await an answer from the person to whom the question was directed. But thank you, S:reu Lupulet for the attempt.
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Post by Capt. Sir Mick Preston on Nov 13, 2009 19:05:06 GMT -6
I was under the assumption, perhaps now mistaken, that the Secretary of State was a nonpartisan position. Captain Preston please enlighten me on this if I am mistaken but should you affirm that the position that you now occupy is indeed one in which is nonpartisan than I must question the honorable Cosa member from the RUMP (M-M) who claims that you are currently "defending the government". Please note that this is merely an attempt at clarification. Article IX: The Secretary of State, the Hopper, and the Clark Section 1. The Seneschál shall appoint a Secretary of State to an indefinite term. He may be removed and replaced by law. The Secretary of State shall supervise and organize the legislative business of the Ziu. The Seneschál is a political office. So, when the Seneschál makes the appointment, it could be nonpartisan, bipartisan, or nonpartisan. I find no comment in the OrgLaw, Statutory Laws, or otherwise stating for or against the Chancery being partisan. (short answer)
Since I have held the Office, I try to be non- partisan. That is the reason why I vote last in the Clarks. But, I am, and always have been a member of a political party. I don't find a conflict of interest in the ability to perform the actions of the Chauncery, MC, and that of a Party member. (I also feel that it doesn't affect my membership in the College, or Captain of the Guard. But that's for another day...) When I speak about a issue, I either speak as Mick Preston, MC Preston, or SoS Preston. (Longer answer) |
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Post by Breneir Itravilatx on Nov 13, 2009 20:41:43 GMT -6
I was under the assumption, perhaps now mistaken, that the Secretary of State was a nonpartisan position. Captain Preston please enlighten me on this if I am mistaken but should you affirm that the position that you now occupy is indeed one in which is nonpartisan than I must question the honorable Cosa member from the RUMP (M-M) who claims that you are currently "defending the government". Please note that this is merely an attempt at clarification. Article IX: The Secretary of State, the Hopper, and the Clark Section 1. The Seneschál shall appoint a Secretary of State to an indefinite term. He may be removed and replaced by law. The Secretary of State shall supervise and organize the legislative business of the Ziu. The Seneschál is a political office. So, when the Seneschál makes the appointment, it could be nonpartisan, bipartisan, or nonpartisan. I find no comment in the OrgLaw, Statutory Laws, or otherwise stating for or against the Chancery being partisan. (short answer)
Since I have held the Office, I try to be non- partisan. That is the reason why I vote last in the Clarks. But, I am, and always have been a member of a political party. I don't find a conflict of interest in the ability to perform the actions of the Chauncery, MC, and that of a Party member. (I also feel that it doesn't affect my membership in the College, or Captain of the Guard. But that's for another day...) When I speak about a issue, I either speak as Mick Preston, MC Preston, or SoS Preston. (Longer answer)I will simply chalk this up to one time when you failed to remain nonpartisan. But I can not imagine any good coming from a partisan Chancery and I have held you in high esteem because of your restraint and equanimity. Sadly and unfortunately that time has come to an end. I think it is time to consider decoupling the Chancery from each Administration and make it a truly independent, elected office free of partisan inclinations which, up until now, the good Captain had maintained. Therefore, before the end of the next Clark, I will be submitting legislation to reform Article IX of the Organic Law to make the SOS an officially non-partisan position. If anyone is interested in working with me on this then I welcome the opportunity to collaborate. |
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Post by Flip Molinar on Nov 13, 2009 21:21:10 GMT -6
I had been thinking up such legislation of late. I will help in any capacity that you may desire.
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Post by Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on Nov 13, 2009 21:26:56 GMT -6
When he failed to remain nonpartisan? Are you suggesting that he has in some way favoured the RUMP in the execution of his duties as SoS? Because that sure sounds like what you're suggesting. If you are not suggesting that, I would strongly suggest you correct this and issue an immediate apology to S:reu Preston.
He has worked tirelessly every Clark, doing the difficult and important work that our nation could not do without. He has taken pains, as he has pointed out, to vote last and be as decent and even-handed as anyone could ask at every turn. I don't often go in for the whole "oh my god I'm outraged" nonsense that is so frequent, but to hear anyone speak of our Secretary of State's ethics and work with anything less than enthusiastic gratitude makes me a little disgusted.
Amend yourself, s:reu, or we will shortly be needing much stronger words.
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Post by Flip Molinar on Nov 13, 2009 22:02:30 GMT -6
When he failed to remain nonpartisan? Are you suggesting that he has in some way favoured the RUMP in the execution of his duties as SoS? Because that sure sounds like what you're suggesting. If you are not suggesting that, I would strongly suggest you correct this and issue an immediate apology to S:reu Preston. He has worked tirelessly every Clark, doing the difficult and important work that our nation could not do without. He has taken pains, as he has pointed out, to vote last and be as decent and even-handed as anyone could ask at every turn. I don't often go in for the whole "oh my god I'm outraged" nonsense that is so frequent, but to hear anyone speak of our Secretary of State's ethics and work with anything less than enthusiastic gratitude makes me a little disgusted. Amend yourself, s:reu, or we will shortly be needing much stronger words. HEAR HEAR!!!!!!!!!!! {AND I STILL LOVE MY FRIEND IN MONTANA BUT HERE YOU ARE SIMPLY WRONG] |
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Post by Cole Schneider on Nov 13, 2009 22:32:30 GMT -6
Plans on moving currency forward? Stamps? Anything? The currency is my main concern, right now we are relying on a crippled U.S. economy. Altho it will take many years to totally become independent, i think the first step is currency. |
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Post by Breneir Itravilatx on Nov 13, 2009 23:40:24 GMT -6
Alexander, my statement stands and I retract not one word. So you go ahead and use those "strong words" that you think will make one bit of difference to me. A member of the RUMP defending a Chancery that "defends" his very own Government, now that's rich indeed and quite a leap, huh?
Flip, your statement of affection is sweet but your sycophancy is still abhorrent. In just two statements you went from "I'll help work on that with you." to "You wrong, Breneir!" LOL. I think that breaks the Talossan record for the fastest flip-flop in our political history. I can only pity the soft and constantly shifting soil in which your convictions are apparently grounded.
As I have said, up until the moment, that the Chancery strode into the position of "defending the Administration" he had been doing a good job. I, in all honesty, believe that the good Captain actually agrees with me that it is not the Secretary of State's role to defend Administrative policies but to serve the people. He has done the latter very well but he should never do the former. If he feels that he must defend the honor of the Seneschal, the Distain or the Administration as whole...then resign and simply be a RUMP MC...but don't allow even the possible hint of partisan favor on the part of the Chancery...which is precisely what his "defense" allows.
While it is not yet a "de jure" issue, it is admitted by the good Captain himself that he believes that the Chancery should be non-partisan which is why he said earlier that he "tries". I now seek to make it a requirement of the Chancery that it be non-partisan as a matter of law not just of choice, attempt, or tradition. And on that matter of perspective, I shall not be moved.
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