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Post by Iustì Carlüs Canun on Apr 14, 2013 19:09:59 GMT -6
Hear Ye, Hear Ye! Citizens of the Kingdom of Talossa, subjects of His Majesty King John: Hi. Here follow the results of the elections to the Forty-Fifth Cosa. Of 188 eligible voters, votes were received from 135 people (11 of whom voted 'Present'), a percent turnout of 71.81% The following people accumulated their third strike, and have been removed from the citizenship rolls: - Sevastain Barclamiu
- Stefan da Pair
- Danihel dal Vaißela
- Tric'hard Dïeulofaçeva
- Mathias Liszt
- Elana Vital
Results of the elections to the Cosa: The Rexhalistaes Unenuxhinds pr'iensa Monarc'hà Panincestind (RUMP) received 61 votes, 49.19% of the total: 98. The Zefençadéirs del Republicánismeu Talossán (ZRT) received 18 votes, 14.52% of the total: 29. The Common Sense Progressive Party (CSPP) received 13 votes, 10.48% of the total: 21. The Moderate Radical Party of Talossa (MRPT) received 13 votes, 10.48% of the total: 21. The Independents's Party (IND) received 8 votes, 10.48% of the total: 13. The New Peculiar Way (NPW) received 7 votes, 5.65% of the total: 11. Le Parti Republicain (LPR) received 4 votes, 3.23% of the total: 7*. *Upon further review, the runner did not touch second base. Touchdown, Squirrels.Results of the Senatorial elections: Atatürk: Brad HolmesCézembre: Glüc da DhiFlorencia: Audradâ d'AurìbuérgVuode: Viteu Marcianüs (colour me surprised) Results of the Vuodean Constitutional Referendum: The new Constitution is ratified. Results of the Organic referenda: 44RZ3 PASSED. 44RZ4 PASSED. 44RZ5 PASSED. 44RZ8 PASSED. 44RZ11 PASSED. 44RZ23 PASSED. Specific figures may be found on the GE thread. Done by my hand in the name of King John and under his Royal Seal this 14th day of April in the year of the common era 2013, in the 7th year of the reign of our gracious sovereign King John, and of the independence of Talossa the 34th. Sir Iustì Canun, Secretar d'Estat
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2013 20:14:58 GMT -6
Vuode: Viteu Marcianüs (colour me surprised) IT WAS A HOTLY CONTESTED SENATE RACE! I also want to take a moment and applaud Talossa on a relatively calm election. While we had 'moments,' the mudslinging and name calling was really kept to a minimum.
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Apr 14, 2013 21:51:01 GMT -6
Cosâ election results since the abdication of KR1, in graph form:
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Post by Gödafrïeu Válcadác’h on Apr 14, 2013 23:10:27 GMT -6
As Hooligan has stated elsewhere, this election marks a statistical point in which the 'devastation' of 2003-2005 has been fully reversed in the seven provinces around at that time. This also marks the first election in the post-reunision era past the 'afterglow' of the Return.
Not since the last Progressive Conservative majority victory in 2002 has there been an election held in a time in which things were truly 'normal': a united and single Talossan people going about their daily business. Do remember from 2005-2011, the Republic was still a going concern along with all that entailed.
RUMP majority victory or not, Talossa has come full-circle. We have *all* come full-circle in what must be a quiet watershed marker-day in Talossan political history: the full-flowering of the Post-Ben political landscape in a Talossan united once more...and this time in a real representative-democratic government in which we have had a long string of truly-transparent and well-run elections (not that the previous ones weren't well-run) free of the spectre of pocket votes that may or may not have been real to begin with.
In the wake of the E. B. Sockpuppet scandal, the ZRT mustered a very-impressive showing, garnering for the second time the role of the leading party of the Opposition, a true alternative to the dominating RUMP. Along with the ZRT, the NPW, MRP, and the PP/CSPP have firmly established themselves as bona-fide political destinations.
The big electoral winner, though, was the Independent party, whose formation has been validated as a master-stroke that was most-likely the single-largest factor in the demise of the long streak of RUMP majorities this time 'round.
But the biggest winner - nay, the biggest winnerS - are the Talossan people. We, the People, are in possession of the most-vibrant political landscape Talossan has seen since the mid-to-late 1980s as well as more than enough trustworthy civil-service members to keep the whole thing going. There is also for the first time perhaps in all Talossan history a real sense of genuine calm without the undercurrent of pent-up resentment Ben Madison so-easily fostered.
The Kingdom of Talossa is better-off than it has been in a long, long time.
I will sleep well.
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Post by Gödafrïeu Válcadác’h on Apr 14, 2013 23:10:52 GMT -6
Vuode: Viteu Marcianüs (colour me surprised) IT WAS A HOTLY CONTESTED SENATE RACE! I also want to take a moment and applaud Talossa on a relatively calm election. While we had 'moments,' the mudslinging and name calling was really kept to a minimum. Amen, brother!
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Post by ián txáglh on Apr 15, 2013 1:59:36 GMT -6
from one seat to eleven, not that bad, NPW. i would like to thank all party members to spell properly the party name in ballots and also to thank to those party non-members (or non-party members, dear noah chomsky?) who accidentally misspelled other's party name and voted for NPW.
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Post by D. N. Vercáriâ on Apr 15, 2013 2:12:55 GMT -6
From one borrowed seat to eleven seats of our own, almost exclusively by our own efforts.
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Glüc da Dhi
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Apr 15, 2013 2:13:07 GMT -6
Results of the elections to the Cosa: The Rexhalistaes Unificheschti pr'iensa Monarc'hà Panincestind (RUMP) received 61 votes, 49.19% of the total: 98. The Zefençadéirs del Republicánismeu Talossán (ZRT) received 18 votes, 14.52% of the total: 29. The Common Sense Progressive Party (CSPP) received 13 votes, 10.48% of the total: 22*. The Moderate Radical Party of Talossa (MRPT) received 13 votes, 10.48% of the total: 21. The Independents's Party (IND) received 8 votes, 10.48% of the total: 13. The New Peculiar Way (NPW) received 7 votes, 5.65% of the total: 11. Le Parti Republicain (LPR) received 4 votes, 3.23% of the total: 6. I have a question. Why did the CSPP get the 200th seat, even though without rounding they would have gotten 20,97 seats, against 6,45 for the LPR. 6.45 seems a lot closer to 7 than 20.97 to 22.
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Post by Iustì Carlüs Canun on Apr 15, 2013 2:17:35 GMT -6
Oops. Looking back, I think that's actually what should have happened. It appears I just looked at the numbers after the decimal point. I guess it does go to LPR.
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Apr 15, 2013 3:01:14 GMT -6
Actually, the first divided seat should have gone to the RUMP, as (in the words of Art VIII Sec 2) "the party with the highest number of total votes will be used." I think Art VIII Sec 2 should be amended, but that's what it says.
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Glüc da Dhi
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Apr 15, 2013 3:08:48 GMT -6
"Based on the final vote tally, the Secretary of State shall calculate the apportionment of seats among the parties. Each party shall receive a percentage of the seats as equal as possible to its percentage of the popular vote.
Each party shall receive a whole number of seats in the final tally. In the event of a single seat being divided among two or more parties mathematically, the party with the highest number of total votes will be used, and in case of a tie, percentile dice will be used to determine a single owner for the divided seat, with chances proportional to the percentage of the vote received.
The Secretary of State shall employ whatever mathematical formulae and calculations in the apportionment of seats, as will best reflect the intentions of this Act. The Uppermost Cort shall be the final judge in case of mathematical disputes."
I think the first part suggests that the LPR should get it.
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Post by Óïn Ursüm on Apr 15, 2013 3:21:40 GMT -6
I think, if necessary, that all parties have standing to challenge any decision on this in court.
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Post by Sir C. M. Siervicül on Apr 15, 2013 3:27:11 GMT -6
"Based on the final vote tally, the Secretary of State shall calculate the apportionment of seats among the parties. Each party shall receive a percentage of the seats as equal as possible to its percentage of the popular vote. Each party shall receive a whole number of seats in the final tally. In the event of a single seat being divided among two or more parties mathematically, the party with the highest number of total votes will be used, and in case of a tie, percentile dice will be used to determine a single owner for the divided seat, with chances proportional to the percentage of the vote received. The Secretary of State shall employ whatever mathematical formulae and calculations in the apportionment of seats, as will best reflect the intentions of this Act. The Uppermost Cort shall be the final judge in case of mathematical disputes." I think the first part suggests that the LPR should get it. Except that if you look at the legislative history, the first part of the section is basically original, while the part about the "highest total number of votes" with percentile dice only being used in the event of a tie was added by amendment later. A law should not be interpreted so that the original language overrides later-added amending language. Rather, priority is given to the more recent language.
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Glüc da Dhi
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Post by Glüc da Dhi on Apr 15, 2013 4:01:43 GMT -6
CSPP, MRPT and IND also dont have the full 21st/13th seat. They only get it because of rounding. Wouldnt this mean the actual result would be RUMP 102 ZRT 29 MRPT 20 CSPP 20 NPW 11 IND 12 LPR 6? After all rounding down would mean 4 seats are being divided, and they would all go to the largest party wouldnt they?
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Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ, UrN on Apr 15, 2013 4:07:22 GMT -6
*sigh* This is why we should have a proper divisor régime for allocating seats - d'Hondt or Sainte-Laguë or similar - rather than this percentile dice nonsense. It's these silly little pitfalls in the OrgLaw which make me sympathetic to a Constitutional Convention.
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